Hillary's E-Mail (Breaking News: Smoking Gun Officially Announced)

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  1. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    Well, you must surely be, you do realize what's going to happen if Joe comes on board right
     
  2. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    No and neither do you.
     
  3. Winston1

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    My guess and I emphasize its a guess is that if Joe comes on board with E Warren's support the democrat knifes will be finding HRC's back and she will be dumped enmass.
     
  4. Bengal B

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    You don't have to guess to know that the powers that be in the Democratic party are very, very worried at this time and surely are making contingency plans for when Hilldebeast becomes totally unviable as a candidate. Only a meathead could fail to see that the progression of events are leading to an out of control downward spiral for her.
     
  5. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    I notice that only the republicans are predicting doom for Clinton.

    Even a FoxNews survey conducted Aug. 11-13 found 49% of respondents still support Hillary as the Democratic nominee, while 30% were for Sanders and 10% for Biden.

    Huffington Post has Clinton at 50%, Sanders at 21%, and Biden at 12%.

    Clinton has as much support as the other 6 candidates combined.
     
  6. TwistedTiger

    TwistedTiger Founding Member

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    It was only Republicans saying that Ole Bill had sex with that woman.....until she showed up with her cum stained dress. You understand politics right? Does a democrat have to accuse her to make her guilty?
     
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    Red it is the change in her standing coupled with the fear that there will be more serious fallout on the email issue that is the issue. Where were her numbers a month ago, two months ago? Where will they be in a month if the email issue is still alive? What would you be saying about any other candidate whose numbers had fallen so precipitously?????
     
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  8. red55

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    I would say that they aren't going to win the nomination by as wide a margin as predicted a year and a half out. Do you think that Trumps meteoric rise means that he is going to win? Let's come back to this next year in August and see where we are.
     
  9. Bengal B

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    More serious fallout

    Hillary’s e-mail defense is ‘total BS’: former State Dept. officials

    Former State Department security officials don’t buy Hillary Clinton’s latest alibi that she couldn’t tell that government e-mails — which she improperly, if not illegally, kept for several years on an unsecured home server — contained top-secret information because they lacked official markings and weren’t classified until later.

    Such messages contain sensitive “keywords” distinguishing them from unclassified information, even if the material didn’t bear a classified heading as she claims.

    The secretary would have known better, the department officials say, because she was trained to understand the difference when she was “read in” on procedures to ID and handle classified information by diplomatic-security officials in 2009.

    Clinton also went through a so-called “read-off” when she left office in 2013. In that debriefing, security officials reminded her of her duty to return all classified documents, including ones in which the classification status is “uncertain,” which would have included the e-mails stored on her private server — which she only this month turned over to authorities. The read-off would have included her signing a nondisclosure agreement.

    “Once she resigned as secretary, she needed to return classified documents and other government-owned documents, which in this case would have included the server,” veteran Diplomatic Security Service Special Agent Raymond Fournier said.

    US intelligence officials so far have determined that at least four — and as many as 305 — of the more than 30,000 e-mails Clinton and her aides have printed out and turned over to investigators were classified at the time they were written.

    They include a 2011 message from Clinton’s top aides that contains military intelligence from United States Africa Command gleaned from satellite images of troop movements in Libya, along with the travel and protection plans for Ambassador Christopher Stevens, who was later killed in a terrorist attack in Benghazi, Libya. Another staff e-mail sent to Clinton in 2012 contained investigative data about Benghazi terrorist suspects wanted by the FBI.

    Both e-mails were classified TS/SI — Top Secret/Special Intelligence — and required the nation’s highest security clearance to read. SI is a control system within the supersecret designation known as Sensitive Compartmented Information.

    SCI intelligence, which if leaked can cause “grave harm” to national security, is tightly controlled and usually kept in hard-copy form in bound books numbered and stored in highly secure “read rooms” known as SCIFs at department headquarters in Foggy Bottom. Before entering, cleared officials are required to place cellphones, BlackBerrys, iPads, laptops and other electronic devices on a shelf outside the monitored facilities. TS/SCI material is transported between SCIFs in locked bags carried by special couriers.

    Clinton aides, however, put it into electronic form. Clinton still maintains she didn’t know that their TS/SCI e-mails were classified when she received them on a private computer server she set up outside the department in 2009.

    “I did not receive any material marked or designated classified, which is the way you know whether something is [classified],” she said last week, revising an earlier claim that “there is no classified material.”
    “That’s total BS,” said retired Army Col. Larry Mrozinski, who served almost four years as a senior military adviser and security manager in the State Department under both Clinton and Condoleezza Rice.

    He says Clinton easily would have ID’d the material as classified based on “keywords and phrases” and the fact that the information came from foreign sources.

    “TS/SCI is very serious and specific information that jumps out at you and screams ‘classified,’ ” Mrozinski said. “The sources [of the information] also drive and signal sensitivity.”

    He added: “It’s hard to imagine that in her position she would fail to recognize the obvious.”

    Mrozinski was the certified security manager for the peacekeeping, sanctions and counterterrorism office in the Bureau of International Organization Affairs, where he had TS/SCI clearance and spent roughly 15 to 30 minutes a day in SCIFs.

    “This is a serious breach of national security,” Mrozinski said, and “a clear violation of the law.”


    “You are strictly forbidden to discuss TS/SCI of any kind outside a SCIF,” he explained, and yet “she was viewing and handling it in direct violation of the law and possibly exposing it to our enemies,” such as ISIS and Beijing, which has hacked Pentagon sites.

    “Anybody else would have already lost their security clearance and be subjected to an espionage investigation,” Mrozinski added. “But apparently a different standard exists for Mrs. Clinton.”

    “She’s in big, big trouble,” Fournier agreed.


    http://nypost.com/2015/08/23/hillarys-e-mail-defense-is-total-bs-former-state-dept-officials/
     
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  10. Winston1

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    Looking forward to it!
     
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