Hillary's E-Mail (Breaking News: Smoking Gun Officially Announced)

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  1. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    No, you imagine why. Just like with Whitewater and Benghazi there are attempts to manufacture a scandal. If there is an investigation, then facts will emerge. Until then, you may speculate, but you really don't know.
     
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    LSUTiga TF Pubic Relations

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    What's so ironic is that this initially began she wasn't being questioned over classified information. The concern was over the potential of hacking. Freudian slip?

    QUESTION: Were you ever — were you ever specifically briefed on the security implications of using — using your own email server and using your personal address to email with the president?

    CLINTON: I did not email any classified material to anyone on my email. There is no classified material.


    Just fyi, Federal rules put the onus on government officials, like the Secretary of State, to protect classified material, even when it’s not marked as such.

    red's play will be, "How do you protect classified material that's not marked as classified?" Competent leaders don't need a "marking" to know what needs protecting. Not leaders who allow our embassy to be taken over and American lives be lost while soldiers are ready to come in and take out the insurgents; but are told to stand down.
     
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    LSUTiga TF Pubic Relations

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    Correct, technically. That's why I began this with saying TOO many things don't add up.

    Based on what I know happens when metal and bone meet, I don't have to go stand in the street and let a car hit me to "know" what the outcome will be.
     
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    Bengal B Founding Member

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    And as HWR pointed out, in 24 years of handling classified material not once was a document classified after the fact.
    Not saying it never happens but it would be exceedingly rare. And certainly not nearly the number that the HilldaBitch claims.
     
  5. Tiger in NC

    Tiger in NC There's a sucker born everyday...

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    Bengal, there is no evidence to date that she has lied about what was on those servers. You are missing my point: Until there is guilt assigned and she is charged with a crime then everything else is speculation. I've said all along if she is found guilty of a crime she should pay for that crime. No question. Right now you are going on pure speculation about what might happen.
     
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    Tiger in NC There's a sucker born everyday...

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    Winston, to be clear, I am a Bernie Sanders supporter. That said, if HRC wins the nomination then I will most likely end up voting for her given the current list of GOP candidates with the exception of Kasich, who I would give an honest look to. In all honestly, yes there appears to be smoke. That being said, in today's political climate where there is smoke there is often an opponent fanning the flames of a false alarm. I agree that the FBI is non-partisan and I am glad they are involved because we need answers sooner rather than later as we ramp up into election season. As I've said all along, if she is found guilty of a crime then she should pay for it. If not, let's move on to the issues.

    You are asking me to speculate about what might or might not be on the server and thumb drives. We currently have an entire news outlet trying to defend her and another who is trying to prosecute her before we even have all the facts, neither of which is doing us all any favors by speculating. Now that the servers and thumb drives have been turned over we should have our answer, one way or another, soon enough. It is not, however, mealy-mouthed to refuse to offer a wild-ass guess or speculate about what might or might not be on those storage devices. Either way, I don't really care.
     
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    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    Which is why I've said for a while now that someone on team shady committed a felony. Now all we have to do is wait to see who she pins it on. If I'm one of those little minions I'm lawering up hard right now, not taking ANY calls from Queen Shady and im telling everything I know to the investigators. Oh don't forget witness protection so they don't end up like her good friend Vince.
     
  8. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Only that never happened! Just like Benghazi you are believing your own propaganda. Eight separate investigation into Benghazi have found that to be untrue. And you don't even realize that you are doing the same thing now. You conflate allegations as facts. You believe anonymous sources when sources on the record have stated that she didn't send any classified documents are disregarded. You must manufacture as big a scandal as you can while you can because . . . just like Benghazi . . . it may well prove to be no fire and no smoke.
     
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    Bengal B Founding Member

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    This isn't a court. In a courtroom she will have the benefit of the presumption of innocence until proven guilty. All I asked you was doesn't the continued scandals for years give you cause to be skeptical about her honesty.

    I voted for Edwin Edwards a couple of times. Other times I voted for his opponent. But I liked Edwards because unlike Hillary he was personally likable even if he was a scoundrel. Like Hilldebeast, year after year there were scandals, investigations and rumors of shenanigans. Even though I liked him I wasn't naive enough to refuse to admit that he probably did some of the things he was accused of. You can spin it any way you want. I never said that she wasn't entitled to a fair trial by a jury of her peers. But you and I are not on a jury. We are metaphorically some guys in a bar or guys standing around the pickle barrel in the general store. We are free to say what our instincts tell us. You may still like her. You might still vote for her. But be honest. Aren't you the least bit suspicious of her?
     
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    Bengal B Founding Member

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    Oh, there's plenty of smoke.
     
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