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  1. uscvball

    uscvball Founding Member

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    No. The players who are clearly a #1 recruit in the major sports like volleyball, basketball, softball, even swimming and tennis, or even soccer can get full rides. There are probably 3 or more vball players at Penn St who are on full rides. Soccer players at Virginia, Furd, Notre Dame.
     
  2. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    Not in women's golf
     
  3. LSUTiga

    LSUTiga TF Pubic Relations

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    Never underestimate your opponent.

    Seriously though, these days everyone has them a country lawyer.
     
  4. Bengal B

    Bengal B Founding Member

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    I thought full rides were only for the sports that make money; football and basketball. At LSU even though baseball makes money the NCAA limits the total number of baseball scholarships to 11 so LSU breaks them up and gives partial schollys to more players.
     
  5. Bengal B

    Bengal B Founding Member

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    I would rather have a big city lawyer with a closet full of $3000 suits. I want to win.
     
  6. uscvball

    uscvball Founding Member

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    Golf is considered an equivalency sport which means that schools can offer partial money and still stay within the scholarship limit. Women's Div1 Golf has a limit of 6 scholarships per team and the average size of Div1 Women's golf teams is 9. They splittin' the money. If it's a private school, then tuition amount comes into consideration, as does out-of-state fees. The average tuition awarded in Div1 Women's Golf is $15,373. In the last 3 years, the NC winners have been Duke, USC, and Alabama. Duke is $60k/yr, USC $64k. USC has 10 golfers....with a tuition at $64k, an average award of just over $15k and 10 players rostered, there are no full rides going on.

    More to consider in terms of goal-setting. There are 263 teams competing in Div1 Women's Golf, and a total 2,242 athletes. There are just over 72,000 girls playing high school golf, and just over 6,600 playing in college which makes for a whopping 9.2% moving on to college from high school. There is just not a ton of full rides out there.
     
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  7. uscvball

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    Football and in a handfull of cases basketball, are the ONLY sports that make schools money. There are NO women's sports who make schools money.

    "The difference between head count scholarships and equivalency scholarships can best be understood as sports that are guaranteed full-ride scholarships (head count) versus sports that divide the scholarships as partial scholarships (equivalency). It is important you understand the type of scholarships offered for your sport.....Head count sports mean the team is restricted in the number of athletes that can be on scholarship. For example, an NCAA DI FBS Football team is allowed 85 scholarships per year and they are only allowed to have 85 athletes on scholarship. They can’t divide that money up to give half scholarships to more athletes. Head count scholarship sports are Football (DI FBS only), Basketball (DI men’s and women’s), Tennis (DI women only), Gymnastics (DI women only) and Volleyball (DI women only)."

    So for Women, there are just a few sports that offer full rides, with no opportunity for partial or shared money. The trade-off obviously, is head count.

    "Equivalency scholarships mean there is no restriction on how many athletes can be on scholarship, but there is a limit on the number of scholarships a team can have. In this scenario, a team might have 30 athletes and 15 scholarships. Rather than have 15 athletes on scholarships and 15 athletes as walk-ons, a coach will divide the scholarships and all athletes could receive a half scholarship. This is an over simplification of how coaches divide scholarships, but it illustrates the point that for most equivalency sports, athletes are on partial scholarships. The following sports are considered equivalency sports:

    • All DI sports not listed above
    • All NCAA DII sports
    • All NAIA sports
    • All Junior Colleges
    • NCAA DIII does not offer scholarships but does offer other forms of financial aid

    When you are competing for equivalency scholarships, there is an added complexity of trying to determine how big your scholarship is going to be. Your “value” (i.e. – the amount a coach would be willing to offer) is going to be different for each program and how they use their scholarship money. When you are thinking about equivalency scholarships you need to compare scholarship offers based on the amount you are expected to contribute and not just the dollar amount of the scholarship. See the scenario below as an example:

    • School A – Cost $50,000/year, Scholarship offer of 50% ($25,000/year), the amount you are responsible for is $25,000/year
    • School B – Cost $15,000/year, Scholarship offer of 10% ($1,500/year), the amount you are responsible for is $13,500/year
    While your scholarship offer at School A is $25,000 (compared to $1,500 at School B), School B is actually going to be much more affordable. This is why many athletes who play equivalency sports need to consider the cost of the school much more than if they were going to be getting a full-ride."
     
  8. LSUTiga

    LSUTiga TF Pubic Relations

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    You'd be spending unnecessary money cause school boards are scared of attorneys and settle rather than going to court.
     
  9. Bengal B

    Bengal B Founding Member

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    Teach her to sing. Miranda Lambert makes a lot more money than, uh, uh, I can't think of any womens golfers. They are all Asian.
     
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  10. StaceyO

    StaceyO Football Turns Me On

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    Because they live in Texas.
     
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