Hey America...Follow Britain's lead

i havent thought about it much, but i am pretty sure i oppose this. i dont like the idea of punishing people for thinking and saying the wrong things.

hate is fine by me, it is violence i dont lke so much.

 

http://www.kentucky.com/mld/heraldleader/news/world/12322847.htm

 

What do you suggest we do then in London? And I say we in the collective sesnse, ie the "fight against terror."

I think we are now in the era of "doing what we have to do to fight this."

 

Let's start taking eroding peoples freedoms, that will show the terrorists.

 

Does this remind anyone else of the days of communism?

I think we should kick out everyone that disagrees with President Bush. I'll move to Australia. Where do all of you plan on going?

 

i am not sure, i have not thought about it much. i make decisions after careful consideration, that way i am always correct.

telling people they are violating a law merely for having thoughts and opinions and expressing them is bad news. even if they are saying "death to america (or britain)". i like to draw a distinct line between words and actions. saying threatening words and encouraging extremist beliefs is not my favorite thing, but its just words. i dont like making a list of thigs you cant say. you should be able to say anything. you should lawfully be able to favor militant islam and bin laden.

"• Anyone who preaches hatred .....could be deported."

now that officially means that free speech is not allowed. you are only allowed to hate things that are acceptable. no freedom of expression. i think that is a bad idea.

there is such a huge difference between words and actions, and i think words should almost never be criminal.

 

To play devil's advocate a little bit because my last post was basically along your train of thought...

Where do you draw the line? At what point is it no longer just words? If I say words that include a plan to blow up the White House, shouldn't the government be able to do something?

Expressing opinions, such as - "I hate America & don't mind it blowing up" - should be allowed because that's what this country was founded on, free speech. But there comes a point when people aren't just talking & aren't really expressing an opinion, but rather instructing illegal activity.

 

i'm not sure.

 

I'm all for free speech. But if some dude is yelling "death to america" or "death to britain," and also living in those countries, they are not only a hypocrite but also a threat.

They're probably more a hypocrite than anything else...But screw it, if they want to preach against the evils of our countries, then screw 'em...It's like a football player constantly talking ****, in the open, about his team and teammates. Sure, there might not be anything contractually wrong with doing so, but it just isn't a good situation for the team...

 

This is a fascinating and difficult topic. Along the lines of CParso's post, you can already be arrested for saying something threatening about the President. I can think of a lot of people I don't want coming after me, and the Secret Service is right up there with the best.

Martin's distinction between words and action are critical. Perhaps instead of outlawing such speech, just let it be known that such behavior will garner additional attention from law enforcement (who presently have ever-expanding powers.) Don't ban the speech though. Letting these idiots run their yap could point us in teh right direction on how terrorists are being funded. I dunno...just a thought.