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  1. uscvball

    uscvball Founding Member

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    You should get to know them. The process by which the "legal" process has been bastardized here should bother everyone.
     
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    Bengal B Founding Member

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    The amount is $10k, not $5k and it's up to the contractor to report it the transaction falls under the statute. I don't think if it does or not. I know that if I deposit or withdraw at least $10k from my bank account the bank is required to report it.

    Several years ago I wanted to put $12k down payment on a car. I don't have anything to hide but I don't like the idea that the government can scrutinize my private transactions if they are over some arbitrary amount.. I wrote a check for $7k from my personal account and $5k from my business account which I counted as a loan. Then I repaid my business in $1000 increments.
     
  3. GiantDuckFan

    GiantDuckFan be excellent to each other Staff Member

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    I'm talking about money tracking laws. It does bother me, go get those bad guys.

    you and others here,.. want to focus on the car's previous owner,.. right now, I'm more worried about our current crazy ass driver running us over a cliff
     
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  4. el005639

    el005639 Founding Member

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    if he is guilty of a crime getting to office or in office he should be iimpeached. right now the only thing i see him guilty of is being the biggest ass to sit in teh white house...hrc excluded :)
     
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  5. HalloweenRun

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    The talking heads are simply insane about the convictions/plea bargain. It’s as if the are trying to “will” an outcome. Nothing like journalism majors delving into Constututional Law.

    OBTW, went to gym today for first resistance work in years. At this point, I can move eyelids and right index “typing” finger.
     
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  6. uscvball

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    Money tracking laws? Which ones would those be so that we're all on the same track? The fact is, the money is NOT a campaign contribution, it's a personal expense much like a candidate would pay a plastic surgeon for botox. It may help in improving their image but it has no bearing on the campaign itself. Cohen owes a shit-ton in back taxes....you think he might plead guilty to something he didn't do in order to avoid THOSE broken laws? Cohen pleaded guilty to a campaign violation for having “coordinated” the American Media payment to Karen McDougal for her story, not for actually making the payment. He is pleading guilty over a corporate contribution he did not make.

    No, I don't and I've already said as much. If I wanted to talk previous issues, I'd go straight to John Edwards. "Remember that the feds tried a similar strategy against Democratic candidate Edwards six years ago and it failed. As Gregory Craig, a lawyer who worked both for President Clinton and Edwards, said, “The government theory is wrong on the facts and wrong on the law. It is novel and untested. There is no civil or criminal precedent for such a prosecution.” Tried it there anyway and it failed."

    Why do you think it is that Manafort and Cohen weren't given immunity but Pecker was? Cause Pecker doesn't have jack information regarding Russian collusion. He's just the slut reporter. This in and of itself lends to the fact that this entire charade and bogus legal procedures is about taking Trump down. At the end of the day, we slept with other women not his wife and they received a small amount comparatively not to talk about it. There are married men all over the country who don't live in the White House who would pay that much or more.

    Do you wonder why more Dem politicians aren't enjoying what should be schadenfreude? Because they've all done it too! And Republicans. For them, it's sufficient to make Trump go away. If that arm of Justice starts digging through their records, the entire country is going to learn the truth about all of them.
     
  7. GiantDuckFan

    GiantDuckFan be excellent to each other Staff Member

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    It's hard to reply because Trump continues to change his lie.

    If Cohen paid Stormey himself to aid Trump's campaign, (keep the story from affecting Trump's chances in the election), and didn't report it, that is considered an illegal campaign contribution.

    If Trump paid the money,.. then by law, that transaction must be reported.

    Kinda moot points though, Stormy and Karen are tiny little small potatoes compared to what's to come.
    sorry, sometimes I see Trumpets.
    Vball, those are all good things.
     
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  8. uscvball

    uscvball Founding Member

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    No, it isn't. By this reasoning, if the purpose of this money paid, just before the election, would be to hurt Trump and help Clinton win, this payment would be a corporate political contribution. If using it not to get Trump would be a corporate contribution, then using it to get Trump also has to be a corporate contribution. That is why neither are corporate contributions and this is a bogus approach to federal election law.


    Which is what?
     
  9. GiantDuckFan

    GiantDuckFan be excellent to each other Staff Member

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    very very debatable,.. the networks have been arguing over that for days, their conclusion seems to depend on which network you watch.
    September's, Manafort trial on Federal charges, should touch on collusion.

    I've read different places that it's expected that the, "obstruction of justice" portion of Mueller's investigation should be finished this fall. I don't know if Mueller will submit a partial report to Congress, but maybe we'll learn more stuff then, from indictments or such.

    Word has it, Mueller is focusing on Trump's inner circle now,.. in the next few weeks expect to hear a lot about Kushner, Don Jr., Ivanka, and White House staff. Just in time for the midterms.
     
  10. el005639

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    Which makes this stink all the more of a which hunt. If someone who like me who doesn't like trump see this what do you think it does for his base.
     
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