GOP plan to replace ACA

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  1. HalloweenRun

    HalloweenRun Founding Member

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    I suggest you read a bit about this sham of a health care bill before making further comments.
     
  2. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    I have.

    I dont think many people, i am guessing you as well, understand all the tax that Obamacare added.

    The new GOP plan removes much of that.

    But carry on.
     
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  3. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    Yourself apprently becase after Obama care it went to over 100% in some cases..

    Well, you haven't really given any facts yet, just like, your opinion.....Dude

    I post here to be challenged. Sorry you can't do the same.
     
  4. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    Its liberalism 101. They are "accepting" and "caring" for all, as long as you think the way that they do
     
  5. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    Sounds more like conservatism to me, minus the caring and accepting part.
     
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  6. Winston1

    Winston1 Founding Member

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    Well said HWR. I don't see this addressing healthcare any more than Obamacare did. It just changes who is feeding at the trough.

    Before any true healthcare reform can be made several serious questions need to be answered.
    1) Does everyone have a right to access healthcare or a right to the same healthcare?
    2) What should be covered by insurance and how far should it go?
    3) Do those who insure and treat us have a right to demand we take care of ourselves if we get treatment for things like obesity, smoking disease and other self inflicted conditions? Should others pay for your stupidity or weakness?
    4) What is the role of government?
    5) Should open competition for all healthcare be encouraged?
    I have ideas on much of this but until these and other questions such as them are honestly addressed we're just arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
     
  7. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    Well, allow me

    Great questions, unfortunately my answers don't matter even if they are correct. You are also correct that this is all still just a cash grab. Healthcare wasn't as broken as some like to think it was before this shit happened and it damn sure could have been fixed a lot differently, damn sure more efficient and a lot less cumbersome. Now that the gubment has their hand in the pie they aren't going to turn loose.
     
  8. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    So removing the state lines you guys think doesn't majorly change things? Lol

    HSA expansion is amazing thing.


    Again I will say obama care added TAXES. THIS PLAN REMOVES THEM. Obama taxed the rich to begin with.
     
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  9. HalloweenRun

    HalloweenRun Founding Member

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    The fundamental problem is that there is no agreed upon, or even stated goal.

    Health care is like a balloon. If you squeeze it "here" it expands "there." Without a stated goal we are never going to get there.
     
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  10. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    Hey, I said it does
     
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