Goodbye Sovereignty

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  1. LSUsupaFan

    LSUsupaFan Founding Member

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    I don't deny that some powerful and influential people may be in favor of some form of global governance. I would flat out reject these folks are pushing for the totalitarian regime idiots like Alex Jones and Lord Monkton claim. I just deal in reality and understand that it is pretty much impossible to implement a one world government.

    Also if these folks are so open about it show me the quotes that call for a consolidated world government, a massive wealth transfer to the poor nations, or any other such non-sense. It is certainly not mentioned in the mission statements of either the Tri-Lateral Commission of the CFR

    Most of the quotes that "support" the one world government or the new world order are just taken so ridiculously out of context that it is laughable. People swore up and down that a world government was coming to power because Bush 41 uttered the phrase New World Order after the fall of the Soviet state. Others screamed about the North American nation Summit in New Orleans last year. They said Bush 43 was signing a treaty to form the North American Union, and that it was top secret. Nothing came of it.

    So when a certified nut gives a lecture about the impending global governance excuse me for laughing. Then again, I have a tin foil hat so the black helicopters can't spot me.
     
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  2. flabengal

    flabengal Founding Member

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    Originally posted by Red:

    You would be hard pressed to find an organization with more members in influential positions in government than the Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commision.
     
  3. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Well, assuming that both are actually advocating a world government, which neither claim to be, what exactly have they used their influence to accomplish towards that goal?
     
  4. flabengal

    flabengal Founding Member

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    Originally posted by LSUsupaFan

    Certified nut? Certified by who? I didn't understand that Tigerforums was an "internationally recognized panel of experts" regarding mental health. I will be much more careful in regard to my own posts in light of this helpful revelation. Thank you.

    Oh, for those interested in avoiding the infamous label of "certified nut" by the "powers that be" on Tigerforums........you may want to make sure your educational background surpases that of the individual's background posted below.

    It was a close call but the individual in question did not satisfy the admittedly high standards of recognized experts on this forum.....

    have a look see at who was not able to "cut the mustard":

    Cambridge.....that's right Cambridge....


    We do hold a high standard of discourse on Tigerforums so please footnote and reference liberally. And if you have no evidence for your case feel free to refer to your opponents and their supporters as "nutjobs", "kooks" and the ever popular...."well, he's not an 'expert' in the field".
     
  5. flabengal

    flabengal Founding Member

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    Originally posted by Red:

    Posted this already, from the ever popular wikipedia:
    They aren't trying to hide anything. They think it's a positive thing.

    Here is a link to the page on the CFR website:
    http://www.cfr.org/project/1369/international_institutions_and_global_governance.html

    Regarding their influence:

     
  6. tinsley

    tinsley Veteran Member

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    I would prefer they stick to the unamendable Principles supporting the Unanimous Declaration.

    The amendable Constitution has already suffered at least one truly terrible legislative error. As legal injustice grains ground in the U.S., who knows where Constitutional Amendments and Philosopher-King Judges could take America?

    Countless individuals can suffer needlessly while waiting decades or longer for the repeal of bad law.

    tgsam
     
  7. LSUsupaFan

    LSUsupaFan Founding Member

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    Seeking some frameworks of global governance and seeking a one owrld government aren't even remotely the same thing.
     
  8. flabengal

    flabengal Founding Member

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    Originally posted by tinsley:

    People suffer from bad government more than from no government in my opinion. Watch out for the "do-gooders".

    Originally posted by LSUsupaFan:

    I think you are missing the point that after they agree to the structure of world government they will only have to move to the step of enforcement and that is a world government.

    Right now it is still a system based on anarchy....there is as of yet no controlling authority. Do you remember Bush's famous line about the Iraqi war that he didn't rely need to ask for permission?
     
  9. tinsley

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    <Bush's famous line about the Iraqi war that he didn't rely need to ask for permission?>

    And did the lawyer infested Congress, the MSM, the Judges, and the legal scholars tell him in no uncertain terms that he was full of ****?

    Nope.

    Will more so-called education bring even more injustice?

    tgsam
     
  10. flabengal

    flabengal Founding Member

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    Originally posted by tinsley:

    I may be wrong, as I am strictly going from memory here, but I thought Bush's comment was directed at the UN and whoever else on the international stage that may not have been in favor of military action.

    Just as another example, Putin didn't check with the UN when he kicked the Georgian military out of S. Ossetia. Nations still interact with each other based on relationships of power, not law. This is what the globalists want to solve. Then they think mankind will live in peace. I think they sincerely believe it, too.
     

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