a better question is why anyone cares about public opinion. i guess i dont see why it is worth discussing. you guys have fun. i wasnt even really in this debate, it was just an observation. fine, but i bet i found a receptive audience among regulars who have an idea of the way you operate. if you arent buying it, thats cool. maybe see what google thinks before you decide though.
Hahaha.....no one has attacked you personally. I laid it out, along with martin, what I think you're about and then I laid out what I think of the whole deal with the war on terror. Also, what you and these other yahoo anti-Iraq war people have to understand is, this is not a religious war. This isn't Islam against Christianity.............this is the same thing we have seen before throughout time. This is an ideology just like facism, just like nazism and just like communism. It's disguised as a religion to start some sort of a holy war.....but there's nothing holy about it my friend. The use the name of Islam to spread facist beliefs.....that's all. It has to be defeated just like it has been defeated in the past........with war and with will. If we aren't together on this thing, united as one, we will lose. Just like we would have lost against Hitler and the USSR and Japan. So let your liberal pals keep attacking Bush and weaking our fortitude when it comes to this war. Keep hamstringing the government by holding out on the Patriot Act, fighting tooth and nail every security measure we have tried to enact to catch these wankas. We're playing right into their hands by doing this stuff........we'll be weakened, over here arguing over political crap when the uranium blows to give everyone in L.A. or New York a permenant orange afro.
The simple fact is that had Kerry won and gone after Saddam, Red, CC and others like them would be in favor of it. I, on the other hand, would have supported the decision because it was the right thing to do.
You just don't get it, amigo, and neither does your hero in the White House. It is clear this is all about a War on Islam to you. Talk about fantasies and unwinnable goals! Wars are fought between countries. We were not attacked by a country on 9/11. We were attacked by a group of radical Islamic criminals. The world was behind us as we pursued these criminals to their lairs and understood that we had to take down the Taliban for supporting them. But we can't wage a traditional war against a group of international criminals and certainly not against a religion. It's a folly of the highest order. You and your warhawk cronies have now decided that a war must be fought against a quarter of the worlds population because of their religion. Countries must be invaded even though they were not responsible for 9/11. Iraq is an unmitigated disaster for the US and history will treat GW Bush unkindly. You can ride the hellbound train with him and his party, but I ain't and neither is the majority of the democracy that we live in. Ignore these third-world raghead countries that hate us. Focus on the killing and capture of the criminals of 9/11. That is a do-able mission and needs to be completed. Right now.
"Terrorists and those who harbor them..." When Bush spoke those words, I'm sure you nodded in agreement along with everybody else. Once the "crisis" had passed, it became a political opportunity for all Democrats and those who harbor them.
What criminals of 9/11? Bin Laden? You think everything will end when he's dead and buried? You think we don't have people looking for him? Talk about short-sighted amigo. You seem to be the one with a chip against "Ragheads" as you call them. If you aren't smart enough to see that this isn't a war with Islam then I see where your overall opinions come from......ignorance. If you can't see these criminals want to start a holy war, or claim that it is a holy war.....you fell for it. And like you, don't tell me what I think. I've written for weeks on what I think. This is a war with facists who happen to be Arab and are attempting to spread facist ideas hidden behind a religion. Nothing more, nothing less. We find them and we kill them. The long term mission ought to be to turn these countries more democratic whereby they prosper and cannot continue to fuel this hatred of the west by keeping their people poor and uneducated. That's what anyone with any sense can see needs to happen. Find the facists and kill them=short term. Work with these countries to help them reform=long term. Yeah, let's just wait for terrorists in Iran to hand a bomb off to terrorists. Great idea.
Well, Kerry is not the issue here. Bush is. Nor is who you imagine somebody might support in some imagined scenario . . . that did not happen. You seem to forget that I supported Bush's operation in Afghanistan. The timing was perfect, the need was great, the enemy was there, the strategy and the tactics were clever, and the conflict was managed skillfully with an exit strategy in mind. We played to our advantages in airpower and special forces, utilized friendly locals to do the bulk of the infantry work, and did not try to invade and occupy the whole place. A quick powerful operation with little political or economic baggage--Ronald Reagan's kind of military operation. I support this type of military intervention None of these factors existed in in the invasion and occupation of Iraq. The military knew it. Colin Powell knew it and I knew it. Many of us did. It derailed the pursuit of Al Qaida and created more islamic enemies for the US than we ever had before. Bin Ladin must have loved it. George Bush blew it. Reagan would have never led us into Iraq.
OK, Taliban Afghanistan harbored the 9/11 terrorists and we took them down, with my blessing. Now Al Qaida leaders are hiding in Pakistan and we do nothing about it. Why? Why was it necessary for us to invade and occupy a country that did not harbor the 9/11 terrorists and did not support Al Qaida, yet we allow Al Qaida to hide in the mountains of Pakistan? I'm with you, lets go after the terrorists and those who harbor them. Lets forget the wild goose chases.
