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Discussion in 'Free Speech Alley' started by Rex_B, Aug 17, 2009.

  1. lsu-i-like

    lsu-i-like Playoff advocate

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    You overestimate me. I'm not seeing your point. I can understand if the Pope says we have to participate in the Cruscades against folks who worship a false God how you blame religion (but not spirituality).

    But if radical Muslims decide to kill infidels because of a bending of the words in the Koran, I don't see how you blame Islam. It's a human problem, not a religious/spiritual problem.
     
  2. martin

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    have you read the koran or the bible? they both quite regularly advocate destruction of infidels. (although not so much the new testament. but the rest)
     
  3. lsu-i-like

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    Can you not consider that maybe there is just the tiniest bit to what they are saying?

    I'm not saying that you shouldn't be a critical thinker, I'm not saying that you shouldn't respect the scientific method and that you should just accept that, "There must be a God because my momma and daddy said so."

    I'm just saying that science and spirituality don't have to be mortal enemies and that maybe there is something scientific and profound buried within the poetry of the Bible. Maybe we are just chemicals and will cease to exist once we die and the concept of God and all the explanations are related to something human, deep within our psyche.

    Looking at the world in a simply scientific way is like looking at the world with one eye closed.
     
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    I believe it depends on the interpretation; those holy books are like poems and they weren't conceived in English.
     
  5. martin

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    i dunno how many times i have to use this example:

    would you ask me that question if we were in ancient greece? would you say "how can you discount the gods of mount olympus? why would everyone be into that crap if it were not true?!"

    what about modern god or gods makes them different? nothing, thats what.
     
  6. lsu-i-like

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    You're stuck on a literal description of Zeus from mythology. I don't have a problem with what the Greek Gods represented and don't find the concept of Greek Gods to contradict the concept of a Christian God. You are arguing from a juvenile understanding of religion, which isn't surprising from an atheist or whatever.
     
  7. martin

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    what? there are lots of them and they chill out at mount olympus and crap. they are totally different. is your policy that you are ok with any scam, as long as it is wacky?

    thats true i seriously thought the dude was named jeebus
     
  8. lsu-i-like

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    You are an anti-fundamentalist.
     
  9. MLUTiger

    MLUTiger Secular Humanist

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    You can't have religion without humans. If they don't have the Koran, Bible, etc. then they have no words to bend to justify killing someone else. There's no mysterious text that tells some nutjob it's okay to blow up an abortion clinic, bazaar, etc. because they feel that God is talking to them. People will stop plunking down their savings for some silver-tongued Televengelist. No more hatred between people because of religious differences. It's why we no longer drown people suspected of witchcraft.

    You know what really kills me? When people don't understand something, so they rush off to try and explain it as divine intervention. No one wants to credit the surgeon; It has to be a miracle. It's impossible to simply say "I don't know", so they rush off to make up stories and fallacies to explain what they can't comprehend.

    People have the nerve to call me arrogant. How much more arrogant can you get than by explaining something you don't understand with a story that just makes sense to you without any proof or evidence?

    We've evolved, but some people just have a hard time of letting go...

    You can speculate that if religion didn't exist humans would find another reason to kill or hate each other. That perhaps may be true. I have always felt that if you ban guns, you'll just see more people die of stabbings. The difference between your argument and mine though, is that I don't have to speculate.
     
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    right on. everyone thinks the atheist is the know-it-all. they are the know-nothing!

    this calls for a quote:

    "Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?"

    - douglas adams.

    why is it so difficult to just accept what we have? are our lives so empty that we need to make up all sorts of fantasies? cant we just enjoy reality for what it is?
     

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