Gingrich at Republican Fundraiser Says Obama’s ‘Already Failed’

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  1. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    the question was an either/or.

    is it:

    a. obama has increased spending and spends more than bush.

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    b. obama has reduced spending and spends less than bush.

    which is it?
     
  2. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    try that bullshyt on someone who doesnt know any better. I still cant get an honest answer out of you, now I cant get a honest question out of you.
     
  3. martin

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    so you cant answer. noted.

    to answer your question: yes, i think infrastructure and educatiion spending is fine. it creates jobs in the long run. but obama is spending far more than that. he is in fact spending more than bush. of course you unwilling to accept that or even discuss it.
     
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    more lies, spending more on what? show me what he is spending more on.
    Most of his deficit came from tax cuts and stimulus(infrastructure spending). I'll accept it when you prove it to me, it coming out of your mouth is useless at this point. You have more than proven that.
     
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    do you agree with your article, when it says:

    "Today, the government is expected to run a $1.2 trillion annual deficit in those years.
    You can think of that roughly $2 trillion swing as coming from four broad categories: the business cycle, President George W. Bush’s policies, policies from the Bush years that are scheduled to expire but that Mr. Obama has chosen to extend, and new policies proposed by Mr. Obama. "

    do you think your article is lying and that obama has actually reduced spending? if so why did you post the article? according to your article, obama is keeping bush spending and adding more.
     
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    well i just want to be clear.

    is it your contention that obama has reduced overall spending? yes or no?
     
  7. LSUMASTERMIND

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    No i dont think the article is lying, but you fail realize where the reductions will come. The Bush tax cuts will expire and the war spending will be reduced. You just said that spending is fine when its on infrastructure and education, which most of the stimilus is. Or do you want to walk back that claim too?
     
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    so we are clear, it is your contention that obama has reduced overall spending?
     
  9. LSUMASTERMIND

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    Ive already answered that, read up a bit.
    As I said I was rebuting your contention that Obama is worst than Bush fiscally after 135 days. I never once said he has reduced overall spending. But you just said that spending on infrastructure is good, right?

    Is spending bad or good on infrastructure?
     
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    yes, and i base that on big spending.

    correct. he has increased spending, i am glad we agree on that. now i happen to think that big spending is not necessary, and it hurts us, and the biggest spender ever is the wors president ever.

    good, but we suddenly do not need to spend more than we ever have. if the obama spending was for roads and bridges and education and lamost nothing else, it would be cool, and also alot less expensive.

    but the reality is that obama is throwing a trillion at "toxic assets" and billions and billions more at absurd bailouts and things that not only are not infrastructure, they directly damage our economy.

    and i am aware that bush also enjoyed a nice bailout now and again, that is because bush is terrible. and obama is worse.
     

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