Gingrich at Republican Fundraiser Says Obama’s ‘Already Failed’

The non-partisan Congressional Budget Office projects Obama will spend way more than Bush. Do you think the CBO has over estimated spending? What signs do you see, if any, that their estimates are too high? Again, I don't understand your seemingly lack of concern for these huge deficit projections unless you don't have confidence in the CBO's projections. How can you be the big proponent of proper balance and be content with Obama's fiscal policies and the enormous deficits that will result? We've seen post after post from you attacking Bush on his mismanagement of the economy. Time to show some proper balance and start critiquing Obama's fiscal policies.


Big Deficit Projection Tests Obama Agenda - WSJ.com

 

like i have said before, if we lived in a country where the two extremes were incredibly intense radical murderous islam, and slightly less radical islam, red would be positioned perfectly opposed to both those extremes, as a moderately loony radical islaimist that only liked to murder a reasonable and prudent number of infidels per year. not too many killings, but not too few. extremes are no good.

 

I'm not surprised that you see it as such. You have a cynical point of view.

Because we police the world? It could be that we have a bunch of nukes and are relatively rich, though the later is becoming less true by the day, and as such, that fear and respect is dwindling. I'm all for a strong military, just not for interventionism. We spend a lot of money policing the world that could go toward domestic programs and programs that would create more stability in our country. But at the same time we are run by a corrupt or misguided bunch too.

Policing the world shows a certain arrogance on our part and a certain disrespect for other nations.

You think the US can do no wrong and that the prosperity we have enjoyed is guaranteed to endure. I disagree.

I am not mindlessy repeating anything.

It does matter, but most countries are more concerned about #1. We can't run around the world trying to make it better without spending a lot of money. Apparently you are ok with government spending tax dollars trying to make other countries better at the expense of our domestic situation. That is typical of republocrats.

 

Actually....that is typical of Democrats (I notice you've combined the words... )

It's this Neocon hangover that has the Republicans tied up with interventionism.

I'm a big believer in protecting (sometimes aggressively) our national interests. Beyond that, let the idiots be idiots if it doesn't impact our interests and security. We can get back to lending them the money to rebuild after they slaughter each other.

 

Gotta give Red more time. I'm guessing he's still trying to figure out how to spin things so that President Obama and his administration's policy goals don't look like a pamphlet for the American Socialist Party.

Luckily for Red, he can always claim that HRC woulda done a better job. :rolleye33:

 

Yes, these CBO projections are only projections but should they not be taken seriously and should not future fiscal policies take them into consideration? These are the best estimates we have and as such should influence future policy but Obama's proposed policies vividly indicate he's not concerned with these projections. Sure, these projections could be wrong either way. That means there's just as much chance of them being understated as them being overstated. What signs do you see, if any, that would lead you to believe these CBO projections are overstating future deficits? I see signs of understating such as the higher than expected unemployment rate that is likely to go even higher.

These deficit projections go way beyond "stimulus" spending and you know it. The stimulus spending is only partially responsibly for the huge deficits which are projected for many years to come. How much time are you willing to give Obama? We know what spending programs Obama is proposing. Most economist have predicted slow growth in the economy for years to come. You tell me a plausible scenario that will lead to these deficit projections not materializing.

Completely untrue. I'm an advocate of low taxes and lower government spending. That's what I consider proper balance and that's not what occurred the last 8 years. Everyone's idea of proper balance is different so unless you define it, which you never specifically do, no one knows where you stand. From your response I have to conclude that you think the CBO projections are wrong because I don't see an ounce of concern from you over these projections. All I see from you is pointing fingers at the Bush administration and absolutely no critiquing of Obama's policies even though economist are projecting much higher deficits than Bush every had for the next decade.

 

yes we should have more respect for the taliban and saddam.

i think there a plenty of US policies that are miserable and greatly contribute to human misery around the world. i also think our prosperiy will go straight to hell if we continue obama's ecnomic policies. so you couldnt be more wrong on both counts.

freedom isnt free.

 

For real... not. Is your intellect not very discerning?

Yet you want to send handouts around the globe.

The cost of freedom is welfare for foreign nations? Or are you arguing that if we don't bribe and protect the world that they will converge upon us? And we will just sit back and let them? You've embraced that line like so many Republicans. What a precarious position you must believe we sit in. Are you afraid of the Muslims, the Russians, the Chinese, the North Koreans, the Cubans, or are you afraid they will all form a league against us, the axis of excess?

Are Russia and China good pals? Will one be ok with the other being the stronger nation considering their proximity to one another? I could see the Muslims lashing out at Israel if Israel were to start dropping bombs on a Muslim nation. Are you afraid we're next, or would it be Europe? I suppose Europe would sit tight and let that happen? Well, maybe they would, but at their own peril.

What nations are we supporting that have extra cash to spend on domestic programs because we are providing them defense? Shouldn't those nations be more responsible for their own defense budgets? Are we selling our soldiers to act as defense forces for foreign nations that are friendly with us? How much money are we pumping into the middle east to stay WWIII? Are we the little boy holding our finger in the dike?