Gingrich at Republican Fundraiser Says Obama’s ‘Already Failed’

Japan economy failed because of protectionism and the highest tax rate in the world.
Martin is wrong in some aspects and right in others.
His problem is he thinks he is right about everything.

 

Okay...I'm a little confused. You stated that "here is a little proof" then referenced The New York Times and msnbc. When did these two start telling the truth and providing proof? :lol: How about using sources that are at least credible?

Both of these should soon be out of business unless the administration bails them out. :thumb: I can't wait!

 

exactly. by bailing out companies that are deemed to be "too big to fail", we destroy innovation and progress. we keep the stodgy old companies around and never allow things to change and progress. and we pay for the privilege of doing it.

we all whine and bitch about living in a "coroprate state run by republicans and big business" and when we get the democrat in office he is just as bought as anyone else. he is happy to throw billions and billions at failed businesses, totally ignoring the regular taxpayer.

and the auto bailouts are particularly ludicrous. we let labor unions collude to control labor prices and we allow american comapnies to make crappy cars that do not compete profitably for whatever reason and then reward them for being awful.

meanwhile there are smaller companies out there making cool new technology and they are desperate for a part of the auto market that is dominated by the mindless old companies. but when they get their chance the door finally opens for them to get a shot at the consumers, the government slams it shut with billions of tax dollars for the old companies. as if somehow any change or prgoress is too frightening.

and everyone was desperate for "change". bush spent too much, he was too conected to big business. and what have we got? change? nope. we have the same thing as before, except a hell of a lot more if it.

of course obama is a failure. he is terrible. he could hardly be worse.

the only good about him is that his foreign policy so far has been to basically continue bush policy, which is good.

to continue and increase bush policy, like becoming more hardcore and threatening with pakistan, this is good. to continue bush policy regarding bailouts, this is bad. to further expand spending and debt, this is terrible. obama is a sham of a president, an atheist who pretends to be christian, a big business slave, a huge spender. he genuinely coulnt be worse relative to domestic fiscal policy. worst ever.

 

lol, it would only have been worse had we elected the republocrat mccain

 

probably not worse but it would have been bad. There are very few fiscally conservative politicians who can avoid caving into the pressure.

 

yeah, mccain definitely is a maniac and a man with terrible ideas. but i dont think he could be worse than obama. obama is basically trying as hard as he can to ruin american financially. he is trying to bring as much misery as possible to the most people possible. by punishing the american economy he punishes the world. obama is probably the single worst thing that has happened to the world in a long time. if he gets his way with health care and the environment it will be even worse.

you couldnt really draw up a plan for fiscal policy that is more punishing. again, worst president ever. by a LARGE margin.

 

The chinks wont even lend us enough money for that nonsense. Soylent green is not far away if we go that route.

 

Since 1776! How about Obama's policies will likely double that in as little as 10 years and these deficit estimates keep rising! Is this your definition of proper balance? That $11.3 Trillion Debt you refer to should be a cause for major concern but to think that it will likely double in just one decade boggles the mind. Are you content with these projections?

New Projections Show $1.8T Deficit for 2009 - Political News - FOXNews.com

Big Deficit Projection Tests Obama Agenda - WSJ.com

 

I'd like to see more outrage when the Republicans are doing the same damn thing. So many are suddenly ready to sound the bell now that a Democrat is in office, but Bush's financial decisions were not good and saddled us with ridiculous debt. A little intellectual honesty goes a long way.

 

you want to "see more outrage" when bush was in office. do you see how people showing the proper outrage is not really a relevant issue?

the issue isnt us, whether we are only critical because obama is a democrat or whether we have out adequate criticism for bush. we are not trying to ferret out inconsistentcy among each other are we? i mean, who gives a ****.

the issue is that obama is a loony spending maniac. do you agree with that? why are you wasting time caring about who said the same thing, or who is "intellectually honest"? why is that something that interests you? can you just analyze the reality of now without filtering info through idiots on this board who may or may not be partisan hacks?

the issue is not our intellectual honesty. the issue is that obama is spending like no other president in history. can we agree that this is a bad idea? regardless of whether it was a bad idea when bush spent so crazy (which obviously it was)?

so we agree, debt is bad. and therefore obama is terrible.

if we say "obama spends way too much!" then that is no less true if your response is "so did bush!".