George Zimmerman Verdict Prediction Poll

A 911 operator issuing a command is not a lawful order nor is it required to listen to them.

 

Exactly. They are message relayers. They receive the call. Take down information and relay it to property department. GZ was confronted and attacked as he was walking back to his car if I remember correctly.

 

There was never an "order" to stand down anyway... the operaror asked if he was following him, Zimmerman said "yeah", and the operator then said "ok we don't need you to do that", and Zimmerman replied "ok" and started back towards his truck...

 

To a degree, I understand the attention this part of the equation is receiving; however, at the end of the day it was not illiegal for him to be where he was.

I'm not sure if his time-line/story checks out but since the trial, I've heard him have an alibi. Again, not sure if it holds water but also not sure if it matters.

 

I'm not a lawyer but I'll give my 2 cents. 2nd degree murder is total BS. and strictly political. If he were to be convicted my faith in the justice system would be much diminished. I at least think the manslaughter charge would not be crazy but if Trayvon was on top of him beating on him it becomes self defense.
I think a charge of "reckless endangerment" if it exists would describe the event. Zimmerman started the chain of events by his actions and his lack of circumspection initiated the confrontation. Without him getting out of the car the kid would be alive and no incident would have occurred.

 

You are correct, however it is a point of contention in this case and media spin that Zimmerman was "told" (as the word used) to turn back.

Without a doubt, the media is running this case. The fact that Zimmerman continued to follow is clearly race driven............

 

Good points, however this is why we have laws.

What you said is no different that saying something to the effect of, "well if she didn't dress like that she would not have been raped."

 

Not quite those saying if Trayvon wasn't wearing a hoodie he wouldn't have been killed is the analogy to dressing provocatively as invitation to rape..
Look as you and others have said the fact Zimmerman is on trial for murder is a travesty. I think the cops were right the first time to leave it alone. This is a political show trial and the media is pushing for conviction as "justice". From what has been presented in the prosecution case he was in self defense and why the judge didn't throw out the 2nd degree murder charge is strictly political.
However I still believe the tragedy was initiated by Zimmerman and he was reckless. How responsible he was should be determined in a civil trial not a criminal trial.
As I said if he is found guilty of any murder/manslaughter count I will be very disappointed.

 

I think there is a much better chance of them returning with a manslaughter verdict.

Am only using your thought for the sake of inquiry. Using this generally accepted definition below, Someone/anyone tell me why manslaughter is not a viable possibility. "The unlawful killing of another person without premeditation or so-called "malice aforethought".

 

Again I'm not an attorney but as I've heard from attorneys, the issue would be closed out by the fact that they were fighting and if as it seems Trayvon had Zimmerman pinned, had beaten his head against the concrete and was hitting him in the face. That would change it to a self defense claim. What the jury does will be interesting to see as will the judge's charge. The charge will be critical to the jury determination.