Gay Marriage Ban in North Carolinaaa

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  1. southerntgr

    southerntgr Veteran Member

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    Ok, I will take you word for it. There has to be some kind of law against viewing child porn though. You just can't make it legal. You have sickos watching children all day long.
     
  2. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    i dont think allowing light into your eyeballs should ever be a crime.
     
  3. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    i already defended people banging animals, but i dunno if even i have the stones to go down this road
     
  4. MLUTiger

    MLUTiger Secular Humanist

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    It seems that the ruling is about intent. Viewing it, meaning an copy is on the dick cache just like ad images from visited pages is different than the storage of images on the computer, in a folder meant for viewing later. It's attempting to differentiate between actively downloading the images versus the images being downloaded in the cache were all images from every page you ever visited is stored.

    At least that's what I get from the Yahoo article. I'd have to read the ruling to actually know for sure.
     
  5. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    I would agree with that on face value. But the very existence of child porn means that some child has been exploited, traumatized and perhaps injured. Removing the market for child porn by holding possessors of it accountable can only reduce child exploitation. We must be pragmatic and realize that complete freedom requires us also to be responsible and self-regulating and to restrict "freedoms" that cause undue harm to others.
     
  6. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    This is where I think that judges need to get involved to make judgements based on individual circumstances. If a fellow has 1,000's of illegal porn images on his machine and has shared them with other perps, then he should be prosecuted as a sex criminal. If a fellow has 1,000's of child porn cache images on his computer, then he is likely visiting child porn sites and should probably be prosecuted depending on the circumstances.

    But . . . if a fellow has just a few odd images over large amounts of time, it could be completely innocent. I have received vile porn in unsolicited emails that got through my filters, even one that got to my office computer through LSU's very sophisticated filters. Who knows what could be sitting in my junk mail folders that I almost never check on and delete about twice a year. I have also been surfing for information and encountered a possibly illegal porn site that I did not linger on, but I suppose it got saved in my cache. I worry about the 20 or so lab computers that I am responsible for. They are use by multiple people including students and grad students and many are in labs that are unlocked during the day. We have passwords and policies. But I have still walked in and found machines in empty labs logged in and available for use. I have also caught janitors at night surfing on lab computers that someone failed to log-out from properly.

    This business must be taken seriously, but a zero-tolerance policy is a bad idea. Let the judges do their jobs and consider all of the circumstances.
     
  7. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    zero tolerance is a bad idea with everything in my opinion.
     
  8. Cajun Sensation

    Cajun Sensation I'm kind of a big deal Staff Member

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    Here's my views on the gay marriage issue in a nutshell: Federal gov't: stay the eff out of it. States: it's up to you Citizens: don't like the gay marriage law in your state? Move to a State that has laws that you agree with. There are 50 states, so I'm sure there is one that's right for you.
     
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  9. mobius481

    mobius481 Registered Member

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    How about the government doesn't "marry" anyone. The church does. Everyone in the eyes of the government is a "civil union" or whatever you want to call it. If you want to get married, your church will dictate if that's allowed.
     
  10. Contained Chaos

    Contained Chaos Don't we all?

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    I'm still waiting to hear a reasonable explanation as to how gay marriage negatively impacts anyone.

    I think Louis CK puts it best:

    I never have any intention of getting gay-married, but this issue is a big deal to me because it's the imposition of stupid religious beliefs & dogma into our legal system. It's also an endorsement of discrimination by our government, and that isn't acceptable, either.
     
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