Gallup: More Americans “Pro-Life” Than “Pro-Choice”

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  1. Krypto

    Krypto Huh?

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    Who said anything about the tax payers paying for abortions? No where in the original post did it mention anything about who is paying for the abortions.

    Are you saying that only poor welfare people are getting abortions and draining the national taxbase? If your only worry is monetary then which is worse, paying $200 for a single procedure or having that child enter the welfare or child services system for 18 years?
     
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  2. PURPLE TIGER

    PURPLE TIGER HOPE is not a strategy!

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    As long as it's legal to have abortions upon request...at no expense...and there are absolutely no consequences for their actions...can we ever expect the numbers to decrease?

    Whether you're for or against abortion, I would think that most civil people would prefer to fix the problem before it exists. I see this effort occuring for the pro-life crowd but don't see much happening from the pro-abortion crowd.
     
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  3. Krypto

    Krypto Huh?

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    I still have no idea where you get that abortions are free. The 2 people that I know who have had an abortion (yes they both had temporary bouts of a missing brain) had to pay $200 to get the procedure done. It is not an emergency procedure, so hospitals or abortion clinics will not perform the surgery without cash or insurance or some form.

    IF Free clinics get federal money to perform the abortions, which some consider abhorrent behavior, then should they also be against these free clinics treating STDs or giving the AIDS cocktail to people (homo- or hetero-sexual) with AIDS?

    fix what problem?
     
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  4. gumborue

    gumborue Throwin Ched

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    not my post, but i'll assume "unwanted pregancies".
     
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  5. gumborue

    gumborue Throwin Ched

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    im anti-abortion, so im pleased with the "trend", but im not encouraged by two things--

    1. women's views havent changed (obviously theirs is the most important)

    2. the % of people against abortions in all cases has gone up significantly
     
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  6. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    There is no compromise among the ideologues for sure. But Roe IS a compromise between the absolute ban that you want and the abortion-on-on demand that the other ideologues want. It undeniably finds middle ground whether you agree with it or not.

    Embryos are not babies. Abortion is not murder.
     
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  7. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    There is no pro-abortion crowd. The pro-choice advocate choice, not abortion, and abortions have dropped steadily in this country for 30 years. Most women choose not to abort, you know.
     
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  8. LSUsupaFan

    LSUsupaFan Founding Member

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    How is Roe a compromise. Abortionists can have their abortions. Anti-abortionists get the shaft. A cmpromise would be more along the lines of no abortion except for health of the mother issues. Most pro-life folks could agree to that.

    Prove it. What makes the 8 week old fetus different than the 8 week old infant?
     
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  9. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    How? No one forces you to have an abortion. Why do you think your religious views should be imposed upon anyone else?

    Why do the same people that oppose government interference in anything, seem to think that government interference into a personal and private family matter is good? Especially when it involves religious discrimination.

    Independence. Sentience. Respiration. Speech. Animation. Cognition. Etc. Etc.

    Is it not obvious to you that an embryo is a totally physically dependent part of it's mothers body, while an infant is an independent human being.
     
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  10. Krypto

    Krypto Huh?

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    oh my. Red and I are in agreement again. Quick someone check the temperature in Hell.
     
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