Freedom of Choice Act

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  1. JohnLSU

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    The Pro Life group is one of the most powerful groups imaginable. All of us know many people who solely vote based on one single issue: who is the Pro Life candidate?

    I'm not surprised to see that the powerful Pro Life lobby is trying to hammer out this "fire" before it is even started.

    Anybody fellow Pro Life people that want to join in can do so by emailing their representatives in Congress.

    Here is a Pro Life postcard you can simply print and fill out (provided by the Catholic Church):

    http://www.nchla.org/datasource/idocuments/Postcards.Eng&Sp.pdf
     
  2. saltyone

    saltyone So Mote It Be

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    It's just a matter of time until the anointed one "transforms" us all...


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  3. JohnLSU

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    The pro-choice movement has a lot of supporters, but that doesn't change the fact that abortion is murder. Being an abortion doctor will never be a respected profession. Having an abortion will never be considered an honorable thing to do.

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    With the US Capitol in the background, hundreds of thousands of pro-choice supporters take part in the 'March For Women's Lives,' on the Mall in Washington, April 25, 2004.

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    With the US Capitol in the background, hundreds of thousands of pro-choice supporters take part in the 'March For Women's Lives,' on the Mall in Washington, April 25, 2004.

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  4. bhelmLSU

    bhelmLSU Founding Member Staff Member

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    Thanks for the postcards:thumb:
     
  5. USMTiger

    USMTiger Founding Member

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    Let's say Roe v. Wade is overturned, and abortion is made illegal in the US.

    1. If abortion is murder, what should happen to the women who perform a self-induced abortion, or find someone to provide a "back-alley" abortion?

    2. What should be the penalty be for a woman who goes to Canada for an abortion?
     
  6. USMTiger

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    Why would med students care about the Hyde Amendment, or the FOCA? Neither of these would make any difference to their practice if they choose not to perform abortions.

    All the Hyde Amendment does is bar Medicaid from paying for abortions. It doesn't compel any doctor from doing anything he/she doesn't want to. 17 states have even gotten around Hyde by providing their own funding. Do the doctors in those states worry about these things?

    FOCA would not force doctors to perform abortions either.

    I guess I'm just having a little trouble understanding the position of these anti-abortion doctor groups. According to federal law and court precedence, they have absolutely nothing to worry about. I think they are pushing an agenda by being deceitful and trying to cause a hysteria over a non-issue.

    Can you show me anywhere where congress or the Pres. has stated a desire to find ways to make doctors perform compulsory abortions? Not speculation, but firm, hard facts?

    By the way, saying that the frustration is shared by Med students and Doctors across the nation, like it is some big hot topic in the Medical community is silly. How do you know this, other than the fact that anti-abortion politicians and Church elders are telling people this? I work in a hospital very closely with many Doctors and Residents. I wouldn't pretend to speak for their opinions.
     
  7. CParso

    CParso Founding Member

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    I am a guy, so obviously I could never really make the choice to have an abortion, but if I did - it is not a choice I would make for myself. Does that make me personally against it? Does it really matter?

    Personally, I have not concluded at what point it should be illegal. This is the real debate as what we're arguing is when does it become a child. It is not immediately, IMO, but I'm not sure at what point it is.
     
  8. bhelmLSU

    bhelmLSU Founding Member Staff Member

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    80% of my large family are medical students, doctors, and a medical attorney. Almost all the rest work at hospitals/doctor's offices in different areas of this country.

    I am relaying what is being discussed by them on a daily basis and 2nd hand accounts of the speeches they are attending. The concern is there if you chose to believe it or not. I am not making up these concerns and conversations.
     
  9. JohnLSU

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    I'm Pro Life and I agree with you. Deceitfully trying to cause hysteria over non-issues has become very common in the Pro-Life community, and it embarrasses me and the movement as a whole.
     
  10. PURPLE TIGER

    PURPLE TIGER HOPE is not a strategy!

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    Why do they call it "March For Women's Lives" when most abortions have nothing to do with the health of the mother? Do you think it may be because most people would be morally opposed to abortion so the spin doctors try to make people believe it's about saving lives?

    I don't think the real issue is about women's rights. I know tons of women who are opposed to abortions so does that mean they hate themselves and want to violate their own civil rights? I don't think so.
     

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