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  1. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Of course, parents have the worst record since they have the closest access. Among other groups with access to children, the Scouts have the best record of weeding out predators, but they pay for this diligence by being accused of homophobia and discrimination. Sports coaches record is pretty awful and schools in general harbor many abusers. But the Catholic priest problem is huge and global. It is unique among other categories of abusers because of the institutional indifference and coverups at high levels. Youth groups and schools will normally get rid of known predators rather than just quietly moving them somewhere else.
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    If you must know . . . There is a time for #1 and there is a time for #2.

    The formula 1+2 = wet trousers sitting or a revolting mess standing and usually is a result of extreme drunkenness. It is important to maintain control of the exit valves.
     
  3. flabengal

    flabengal Founding Member

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    Well, the Catholic Church is huge and global so....

    Anyway, I think the media has really distorted what is going on with the priest molestation issue. Any chance they get to take a shot at the Catholic Church they won't pass up....

    In most cases these priests are homosexual and that is really the problem. I don't think they are pedophiles.

    As far as the cover up goes.....certainly it is the wrong thing to do but almost every human being in that or similar situations will initially try to cover it up. It's human nature.
     
  4. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Perhaps they should not report these crimes as they do all other crimes.

    Well, those are the standard excuses for the scandal. You don't think that priests who molest kids are pedophiles? Pardon me if I think you are misguided.
     
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    I must have made my point poorly. Certainly they should report the crimes but the scandal has not been reported accurately and they also try to use it as evidence that celibacy is the problem or to support women priests, etc.

    The problem is primarily the concentration of homosexual men in the church. I am no expert on the subject but I think if you molest pre-pubescent children that makes you a pedophile. Most of the cases (from my understanding) involved post-pubescent boys.

    The problem is men becoming priests who are homosexual.....but the media can't say that homosexuality is the core problem.....they will have to lay the blame elsewhere.
     
  6. martin

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    well, only odd deviants are willing to take a vow a celibacy, so basically all priests are freaks with problems. anyone who would take a vow of celibacy is necessarily creepy and messed up, with all sorts of problems and issues. basically ticking time bombs.
     
  7. flabengal

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    Well they certainly are choosing to lead a different life than most people so if that is what you mean by freak.......

    It's certainly not for me but I can respect and appreciate their sacrifice for a more noble goal.
     
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    And martin, just to throw another conspiracy theory your way (i know how much you love them) there are those that think the Church has been infiltrated by Freemasons who are determined to bring down the Catholic Church. So many of these priests may in fact not be Catholics at all.....
     
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    Well, don't you see that this is a logical result of celibacy? Former priests report that there is a large homosexual underground in the priesthood.

    Sex with any child makes a perp a pedophile.

    Allowing priests to marry is the logical way to rid the priesthood of a homosexual problem.
     
  10. flabengal

    flabengal Founding Member

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    -I'll be damned....that's exactly what I'm talking about! The issue is not celibacy. It's whether or not homosexual men should be allowed to become priests. Clearly, they should not.

    -Maybe I'm being to technical here but that's not what pedophile means:


    -My understanding on the priest/marriage issue is that at some point the Church made the decision that one unmarried priest can be as productive as (picking this number out of thin air) four married priests. I think they can change that rule if they want to but it really is up to the Church. If you want to start a family then go get a job selling insurance and help out at the local church if you are really devout, etc. Being a priest is not for everyone. It's more like being a Navy Seal or something.
     

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