For all those Mauck critics. Think about this..

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  1. SPEEDYGUN

    SPEEDYGUN Freshman

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    TigerEducated, this is how important arm strength is

    The same draft that produced Brady also produced Chad Pennington, Tim Rattay, Marc Bulger, and Doug Johnson, all of whom started this year at some point.

    Here are the negatives from each of their pre-draft scouting report:



    Marc Bulger
    Negatives: On the lean side and does not have a big frame. Looked like a totally different player in ’99. Got beaten up badly early on and played hurt most of the year. Developed bad habits. Instead of stepping into his throws, he threw falling away from the line. Bird-dogged primary receivers and forced the ball. Lost his accuracy and confidence. Never had a big arm, but arm strength was not a concern until this year.

    Chad Pennington
    Negatives: Looks like a by-the-numbers, slightly mechanical passer at times. Lacks a great arm and can’t drive the ball down the field, unless he can really step into his throw and is throwing in rhythm. (However, he can air it out more than 60 yards under ideal conditions.) Does not throw the deep ball that well. Needs to have his feet and body correctly aligned at all times. Accuracy suffers the further he throws down the field. Will lock on to his primary receiver and tip his hand too often. A lot of his completions are on short passes where the receiver does a lot after the catch. Pennington’s teams have almost always been superior to their opposition. Has rarely been knocked around in a game, so you don’t know how he will play after he gets battered and bruised and hit on almost every passing down. Did not throw at the Combine, where scouts wanted to compare his arm against other quarterbacks

    Tim Rattay
    Negatives: Lacks ideal size and a strong arm. Needs to do everything in rhythm and to be able to set his feet and step into his throws to throw down the field with any velocity or accuracy. Ball flutters at times. Gets passes batted down. Plays in a dink-and-dunk, QB-friendly offense, and a lot of his production comes on what amounts to long handoffs. Can only play in some types of offenses where he would be throwing a lot of quick, short passes on rhythm like the Bears are doing under Crowton.


    These 3, plus Brady, all have had success without any of them possessing a "NFL ARM"

    And what about Doug Johnson? He actually has an NFL arm, and he is the worse one of the group:

    Doug Johnson
    Positives: Above-average all-around athletic ability and size. NFL arm strength. Will make some very impressive throws at times.
     
  2. Eleven

    Eleven Founding Member

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    yeah, Brady doesnt have great arm strength....i dont think he completed a pass over 20 yards last season.

    we'll see
     
  3. shaqazoolu

    shaqazoolu Concentrated Awesome

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    hey what about good ole Jake Delhomme.....
     
  4. SPEEDYGUN

    SPEEDYGUN Freshman

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    WTF?? How did I forget him??? Make that 14 quarterbacks...
     
  5. Chipeace

    Chipeace Country Roads Tiger

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    In my opinion, Mauck's greatest strength is his ability to "quickly" read defenses, & his quick feet. In today's NFL, this is more important than a cannon arm. Although, having both is surely an advantage. I believe that Mauck will get drafted in the later rounds, play a year or two (unless he gets into an unusual situation like David Woodley did years ago), & then enter Dental school.
     
  6. lsu99

    lsu99 whashappenin

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    Like someone else said, I bet Mauck would've come back if we really needed him to (i.e. no Russell/Flynn). He had a lot of factors to consider but that was probably the deciding one.

    I don't think Mauck will get drafted but he'll get a chance to be a 3rd QB for a couple of years and progress with the team. If he does, great. If he doesn't, dental school.
     
  7. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    TE is probably right about Mauck being a good reserve QB in the NFL. He doesn't have the physical tools of Booty/Davey/Nall. On the other hand his winning percentage blows them away because he is a smart quarterback and an efficient passer. No long ball, but he knows how to use his receivers.

    These are exactly the skills a team needs in a reserve QB, who will only come in an emergency. Such a player will have to be smart, steady under pressure, and use the players around him. Matt can do this.
     
  8. captainpodnuh

    captainpodnuh Baseball at da Box

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    This is a win-win situation for Matt. First, he gets to have the incredible experience of working out in the combines with the best players in the country.

    Second, if he gets drafted, he will get a nice signing bonus for his family. If he survives and makes the cut, he will get a nice salary, more than almost any 1st year dentist will ever make. If he gets cut, then he has his signing bonus and goes to dental school, having had an incredible experience.

    Third, if he doesn't get drafted, he goes to dental scholl having had an incredible experience in the combines.

    Last, he doesn't have the potential to be embroiled in a QB controversy with some aspiring young QBs.

    All in all, this is the best possible move for Matt and I wish him all the best.
     
  9. cajdav1

    cajdav1 Soldiers are real hero's

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    Captain I think you hit it on the head. So waht if he doesn't male it. I truely believe he is ready to get oiut of college as he is 25 or 26 and is getting married. Probably needs a break before starting dental school and if he returns to LSU he would have had to take a minimum course load towards another degree by rule. If he gets drafted in the top 3 or 4 rounds as a QB he will make a decent bonus as QB's get a little higher bonus than all others due to the lack of them. He may end up being another Jake, maybe not. But I think his decision wasn't based on football as much as it was based on being ready to get out of school. And good luck to him whatever happens. I will say that the main thing he has going against him is that he isn't from LA as per capita we have put more QB's in the NFL than any other state. Back in the 70's at one time we had a bunch of QB's in the NFL with most being starters: Bert Jones, Doug Williams, James Harris, Joe Ferguson, Norris Weese, David Woodley, Steve Ensminger, Terry Bradshaw and a few others were all in the NFL at the same time. That's incredible for a little state like ours.
     
  10. lsu99

    lsu99 whashappenin

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    Earlier this year, I remember a stat that said 6 starting QBs were from Louisiana. One of them was Tommy Maddox who I didn't realize was from Louisiana. Not sure who else was on the list. Maybe Kordell Stewart and Patrick Ramsey. Rattay? Anyone else remember when they showed the list on an early season Monday night football game?
     

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