I'm confused Rex. You're surprised or appalled that a Christian President is involving God in his decisions? While you may not agree with his beliefs, this should come as no surprise.
haha, my calling you out really got under your skin huh? use quotes when you tell me what i said, then we will see if i was lying. lets see exactly what i said: i either agree with a decision or i dont. if bush decides to lower taxes, i do not care if he says jesus told him to do it. i want taxes lowered. i also want iraq invaded. i do not care if bush says god told him to (even though he didnt say that, which was the dishonest premise of this thread). if you learn to use quotes you will not need to put words in my mouth, but i guess that sucks for you because with quotes we cant pretend i said something i didnt huh? i didnt change what i said. you are grasping at straws because i called you out. hahaha, it is easy to say i did whatever, but demonstrating i did that will prove pretty difficult. i encourage you to try though. do like i do, when you catch somebody lying, use their own quotes to show it. unfortunately for you, am honest and consistent. look, i catch people lying all the time, just accept it and move on.
Trust me, you would never be so lucky. You can keep trying though, if it makes you feel better. I'm just using your lame, pathetic, petty tactics against you so that maybe you will see just how well they fit those descriptions. Notice how I said 'by his definition' (which is very off-base) Lying again, huh? Show me where I put words into your mouth. Show me exactly where I stated you as saying something that you did not. Go ahead. Your original statement didn't bring any sort of 'other' justification into the matter, just that we should judge him by his decisions, and not by any reason that he uses. You then went and refined it by saying that the decisions may be otherwise justified to you. The conflict between those two statements is that you left out any mention of any justification the first time around. All decisions must be justified to some extent if they are going to be judged. Personally, I'm ok with going back and explaining or elaborating on what you previously said, but you think that is lying. Which is exactly what you do everytime you get your panties in a wad over some trivial bullsh!t such as this.
no problem: i said nothing about "end results". use my quotes next time. when you use quotes you address exactly what the person said, and that makes things simpler and less open to interpretation. just use quotes ok? see how i do it? if bush decides the war is good, i am fine with that, even if he decided because god told him to. cant you figure out i mean that i thought there were other good reasons that he wasnt using? obviously. if bush says god told him to go to war, and i agree that war is good, it isnt because i think god said it. see, i dont believe in god, it is the most apparent thing on this whole board. i feel like i am explaining this to a child. i do eh? i wasnt aware. sounds like you are putting words in my mouth again. rex said "I saw Bush, himself, declare that he invaded Afghanistan and Iraq because God instructed him to" but he didnt really see bush say that. i call that lying. if you want, you can call it a mistake. either way it is misleading at best. there is no "explaining or elaborating", that just plain never happened.
Anybody with intelligence and honesty can see why I made the mistake of phrasing. Yes, Bush, himself, did declare he invaded Iraq because God told him to, according to sources we have no reason to doubt since that declaration is perfectly consistent with other Bush statements. Yes, I did see accounts of those sources. No, I didn't personally witness Bush making that statement, but as it in no way impacts the point I was making I had no reason, whatsoever, to lie about it, nor did I. Contained Chaos, this is a typical Bush apologist tactic: a diversion away from the issue. Whether I witnessed Bush say those words or not is not central to the point. Whether Bush uttered those words or not is not even central to the point. That faith guides Bush's actions is undeniable. I posted several quotes which confirm that, and also which lend credence to Mahmoud Abbas's testimony of what he said. martin's self-assigned function here is that of a nit.
nevermind, i found it at the very end of your article from some paper i never heard of: "According to Abbas, immediately thereafter Bush said: "God told me to strike at al Qaida and I struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East. If you help me I will act, and if not, the elections will come and I will have to focus on them." according to abbas eh? not even a real bush quote. a paraphrase from mahmoud abbas. yeah there is a guy i bet never fudges a quote. i wonder why no mainstream press heard bush say that. weird. not only that but he said this at a meeting "between Palestinian Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas and faction leaders from the Hamas, Islamic Jihad and the Popular and Democratic Fronts". so our bush quote is actually mahmoud abbas in a meeting talking to islamic jihad. credible!
Maybe it sounds like that to you, but I don't expect you to comprehend how inadequate and self-serving your definition of 'lying' is.
