F-150 Falls for 1st time in 17 years

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  1. OkieTigerTK

    OkieTigerTK Tornado Alley

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    thats kinda where i am with the toyotas. i would really like a sequoia, but for the lower gas mileage and the higher price, i cant justify the expense. yes, it is roomier, but for just two of us and one or two large dogs, it isnt necessary. i really think my next vehicle will be a highlander hybrid. most of my driving is local and that is where it will save on gas. plus, i plan on driving it a long time so the added expense of a hybrid will be worth it to me. (my accord wagon i am driving now is 15 years old and i expect to drive it a couple of more years.)

    ive been thinking i want a hybrid for a few years now. the way gas prices are going just reinforces that thought.
     
  2. LSUsupaFan

    LSUsupaFan Founding Member

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    It still takes too long to breakeven, even when the tax credits are considered. It takes over 10 years of driving a Prius 15,000 miles annually to make up the price difference of the closest non-hybird vehicle, the Corrola. When you add to the fact that the batteries on hybird are very expensive to replace, up to $3000, and the fact that new cars depreciate rapidly you can not get ahead by driving a hybird.
     
  3. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Hybrid prices will come down as numbers produced increase. Batteries are improving, too. Moreover, gas prices will continue to increase rapidly and shortages will happen more frequently. I think that breakeven point is shifting rapidly.
     
  4. LSUsupaFan

    LSUsupaFan Founding Member

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    Yes, but the other side is that the tax credits are going to sunset soon and shift the breakeven the opposite way. I agree that at some point in the future a hybird will make economic sense, but we aint there yet. Buying a hybird today is spending thousands to save hundreds.
     
  5. OkieTigerTK

    OkieTigerTK Tornado Alley

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    i am a couple of years away from a new vehicle so i am hoping that by the time i am ready to buy, it is more economical to buy a hybrid. and even if it is an "inbetween" savings from what it is now and a more reasonable breakeven point, i think that since it is a vehicle i will be driving for several years, the shift will happen early in its life and make it a worthwhile purchase. kinda betting on the future.

    i am interested to see what happens with hybrid production over the next couple of years.
     
  6. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    Well what do you know, Red and the liberal wagon loves the fords and I'm a Chevy man. Who could have ever guessed. Come on, let me hear all about how the F-150 is blah blah blah. I've got 200k on an 8 year old
    Z-71 I get about 19 on the highway and so far only had to change a water pump and a radiator. Those commercials will all tell you their product is the best selling. Its what they do.
     
  7. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    I am a Chevy man myself, i had a Z-blazer that had over 280k miles on it, not one engine problem, just had to change the starter. It was in a car accident, thats the only reason why I gave it up.
     
  8. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    My old 1996 Explorer had 200K on it and I only replaced an A/C compressor and the tie-rod ends. Not even a muffler in 12 years! I've still got my Dad's old '85 Chevy 3/4 ton pickup and I'll out-pull you with it. My 2008 V-8 Explorer 4x4 will out-run you and out-climb you, too!

    I get 23 on the highway without the A/C, 21 with it, but only 14 in town, which sucks.
     
  9. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    I was only trying to ruffle my old amigos feathers, which apparently worked. :grin: Otherwise I would have gotten the My blah blah can out pull your blah blah and I've got this that and the other. :lol: The old trucks will always be the best. I had a 69 F-150 when I was in high school, 3 on the tree. One of the best trucks I've ever had.
     
  10. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Ford and Chevy trucks are equally powerful, dependable, and rugged, I agree.

    It's a matter of style . . . :grin:
     

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