Name-calling is far worse than derailing threads. It's also against the forum rules. red forgot that one, it seems. It's a far bigger problem imo. At least people are having fun and enjoying one another in threads that go off track.
If you have a problem with the mods, contact BRETT, don't keep creating issues on the threads. Understand? A few people do but the rest are bored and annoyed by it. Nobody objects to threads wandering like they have here forever, but many objected to the kind of personal thread derailments that were in question and you know exactly what I'm talking about. Let it go.
The point is Lee seems to fold and/or panic under pressure. This is a killer and when present can't be tolerated. JJ for his faults seems to stay strong in pressure situations. CLM sees this and that is why he gravitates ti JJ. To be sure when the pressure is intermittant or light Lee can make plays and probably is better than JJ. It is under continued tough pass rush that Lee crumbles. He did at Alabama and was a liability after his first pass when he got hammered (should have been called roughing). He just caught the snap and flung the ball after that. Both Ints were panicked passes. Les does this at other positions. Remember how he played C Scott at RB when Kieland Williams was more talented (still in pros) because of fumbles. Same with Ford. It is reliability not potential that Les likes in JJ.
Exactly right. I've developed quite the disdain for both of them and cannot wait until they are both gone so we don't have to deal with this crap anymore. Well until Randall learns and we have to go through it next year with Mett.
In '07 Flynn had multiple games where he threw not one but two or more INTs. He had 3 in one game. Through 10 games Flynn had already thrown 10 INTs with the same number of TDs as Lee. Lee has only thrown 3 INTs all season. Yet I've never heard anyone say Flynn folded under pressure. Lee has made some bad passes but it didn't look like panic to me. It looked like he was trying to make something happen and it didn't work out. News Flash: Throwing QBs throw INTs. He wasnt given a chance to redeem himself before Miles went ultra conservative. If we had been down by a TD in the 4th Qtr, we'd have seen Lee again because Miles would have needed him.
It isn't the number of interceptions it is how they were thrown. Flynn threw a bad pass in the BCSNCG that let OU back in the game. He made a bad choice. Yes they happen as you say and it is a risk every QB takes. In the Ms State game Lee's int was just such a pass. In Lee's case he seems to have a want to get rid of the ball without a thought of the concequences. In the Bama game Lee did seem to panic on both ints. The first was a bad snap. He just picked it up and threw the pass without looking downfield. The second he rushed and was more than 3 yards off target. Had he taken the time to make the very accurate throws he is capable of it could have been a lonjg completion or even a TD Lee seems to lose control of his actions when the specter of a strong pass rush if there as with Bama. You can see it in his eyes and how he holds himself. He is NOTa coward but I believe it is an uncontrolable reaction. In fact as I have said before to fight that as he has is as brave an action as I can think of.
I have been in touch with BRETT. We're in talks about a possible partnership or maybe even me buying him out so hold on to that thought for now. Be advised you are auditioning for the job. Understand? Now let's please get back to our quarterbacks.
I think the big problem people have with JJ is that he has long, slow, boring, sustained drives. Contrast that with Lee and you see drives that have moments of exciting big yardage plays. At the end of the day, I'm guessing that percentage wise each QB is at the helm of scoring drives for roughly the same percentage.
What would cure lee of throwing it up for int's when the pressure is on is to have a short yardage dump off guy. There is always players downfield over ten yards and lee throws it up. If they had the tight end or runningback out three or four yards scrambling around to stay open it would give lee a relief valve to dump the ball off and not take a sack or throw it up.
