Evangelicals Can Be Incredibly Strange

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  1. MFn G I M P

    MFn G I M P Founding Member

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    Not all churches teach speaking in tongues and in fact all of my life in my evangelical Southern Baptist church I have never once heard someone speak in tongues. I'm not trying to say that no evangelical speaks in tongues but it isn't as widespread as you would believe, in fact it's mainly pentecostal churches.

    In my experience the evangelical teaching on hell is pretty consistent with what Jesus and his disciples taught. We believe that hell is a place reserved for those people who chose not to believe that Jesus died for their sins and to ask him for forgiveness. Where they will stay for eternity with no chance of ever escaping. However your belief in hell is not a salvation issue. But anyway here are a few things Jesus had to say about hell.

    Those are just a couple of the things Jesus said about hell: it would be eternal, unbelievers are cast there, it is a fiery place of torment.

    They could have eaten an apple, no one knows, however it doesn't matter if they ate an apple, an orange, a banana, or whatever it could've been because the important thing about the story of eating the "forbidden fruit" is that Adam and Eve chose to disobey God even when they lived in his presence. Not a salvation issue.

    I believe this, could I be wrong? Absolutely, but does it matter in any way when it comes to my or anybodies salvation? Not at all. I, and most evangelicals, are Bible literalists so when Genesis says that the universe was created in 7 days I believe it and when if you add up the ages of the various genealogies you get close to 7000 years I believe it. However, I will say that this is one of the shakiest beliefs I have but again it isn't a salvation issue.
     
  2. MFn G I M P

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    That is 100% correct and exactly what most evangelicals believe. You are lumping a small group of Evangelicals with everyone in the evangelical group, when you say that all evangelicals practice speaking in gibberish tongues.

    As a side, if you don't mind me asking what type of church are you a member of?
     
  3. Sourdoughman

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    How can you even read his posts?
    Seems to me he is writing in Tongues!:lol: :grin:
     
  4. martin

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    how cn you tell the evangelicals who do "speak in tongues" are not really doing it. how do you know it is just gibberish?
     
  5. MFn G I M P

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    Because, like kedo said, speaking in tongues is when a person speaks in a foreign language that they are not familiar with, such as mandarin, french, russian, etc. Acts 2 records the first time that speaking in tongues happened.

    That right there shows that the act of speaking in tongues is actually just a person speaking in foreign languages that they don't know but that someone understands and not someone speaking gibberish.
     
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    i know that, i have read the bible.

    i mean when a religious person speaks the jibberish and claims they are speaking whatever god words or something, they will tell you they are not making it up, it is flowing from god. without referencing the bible, how do you know what they are saying isnt true? maybe it isnt jibberish. are you saying they are lying?
     
  7. MFn G I M P

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    Well I can't really answer a question about a biblical doctrine without referencing the Bible and I really can't give an unbiased opinion because of what I have learned about the subject from the Bible. So I will just indulge you and give you the answer you are looking for, yes they are lying. They may be doing it because they think it makes them seem more "Godly" or spiritual I don't know, but I would say they are incorrect when they say that them speaking gibberish is speaking in tongues.

    That is unless someone else is there that can interpret what is being said by the person speaking "gibberish" and if it doesn't contradict the Bible.
     
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    martin Banned Forever

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    i appreciate you indulging me.

    thats harsh, calling these people liars for practicing their faith. maybe they believe it so much that it is real to them and they are not lying.
     
  9. MFn G I M P

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    No problem. :lol:

    I knew that's where you were gonna go with it but they can believe it is from God all they want, that doesn't make it true. Just like beliving in a flying spaghetti monster or Lord Xenu, doesn't make it true.

    And now you will say that if believing in those things doesn't make them true why is my belief the true one. I will try to explain why I believe my beliefs to be true and then you will say something snazzy about me believing Christianity because I was raised in a Christian nation. But we can take that route if you want.

    However, for now I need to get back to studying for my Anatomy test on monday but i'll be sure to reply to whatever you say later today or tonight.
     
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    we could, and it would be snazzy.

    i am gonna guess you believe you happen to be right because of personal revelation, and you realize that lots of crazy religious people have personal revelations that are different and opposing yours. i know you realize this puts your revelations into question, but you are steadfast.

    you are the horse that has brought himself to water. go ahead and have a drink.

    for the record i do not believe all the crazies are liars, i believe they have fooled themselves and are sincere. some are liars though.
     

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