ESPN tries to murder LSU....

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  1. LSU-SIU

    LSU-SIU Founding Member

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    The piece is not about whether Porter or Garrett were good enough, the piece is about Universities blatantly over-signing. If it were not Porter or Garrett it would have been someone else.

    There was nothing wrong with the piece. IMHO Les is over-signing at the expense of gullible kids and in the case of Garrett is caught lying about it. Garrett would still be on the team if Zach Lee were not signed.

    I hope ESPN continues to have pieces like this if schools continue to do it.

    I don't think Les would feel to good about a school that did what LSU did to Porter if it were his kid.

    You think last summer was bad, wait till this summer, the amount of over-signing at LSU is going to an all new level. The NCAA needs to fix much about college football or eventually the federal government is going to get involved, they already are doing investigations into the BCS.
     
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    mobius481 Registered Member

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    The only thing that looks bad in that piece is that Miles sat down with the kid after the decision had been made and didn't tell him face to face like a man. If that's true, it's pretty embarrassing.
     
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  3. LSU-SIU

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    Well that is why the Garrett's were mad, plus he basically lied in a press conference about it. My guess is he thought Garrett would stay on as a walk-on since his parents could probably afford it.

    LSU can easily solve the problem, stop over-signing players. Unfortunately, it looks like they are going in the opposite direction. They have 19 more gullible kids ready to sign up, spin the wheel make a deal. Someone is not going to be happy, matter of fact there are going to be quite a few players making plans right now that just won't be working for them.
     
  4. vshouse

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    First things first...this goes on all over the country....it's not just an LSU tendency. Next thing is the reason this happens alot is because most coaches will take a chance on sighning a kid that they are not sure if they are going to be academicall elegible.....THAT'S where the problem comes in....coaches start taking one or two players to replace the kid they do not think will be elegible and suddenly the kid is elegible and they are stuck. LSU has done a very good job at recruiting kids that they KNOW will be elegible. I know of a kid right now that LSU is on very hard from close to my home...he's only a sophomore right now, but he's 6' 4" 285lbs....however his grades are suspect right now....The lsu staff is telling this kid over and over to get his grades right and he will be at lsu. It's a hard thing to deal with...especially in Louisiana where it only take a 1.5 gpa to remain elegible for sports in highschool...but then they have to step it up for college.....I personally think the highschool should be the same as college acceptance to remain elegible.
     
  5. pharpe

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    No it's not. It's a perfectly valid question to ask and should be asked. Look I don't know what was said by LSU or Miles regarding this issue. However, it's a simple matter of explaining the circumstances around CG departure. All of the secrecy, double talk and, no comments lead to people having to fill in the blanks themselves. News organizations are going to fill it in with the best story.

    I never liked them cutting the kid in the first place with our QB depth situation. Especially since he had never one been in any trouble or had any disciplinary actions against him. All we ever heard was he looked good in practices but was still a year away and all of a sudden he's off the team. Then, over night everyone hates him and stories that he was lazy, etc appear on the internet. These are now considered "facts" of course.
     
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  6. LSU-SIU

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    Doesn't matter if other schools do it. LSU and Alabama are at the top of the list, in the case of the story the school which Les is representing was lying about the facts surrounding Garrett. Which is another big ding.

    There is nothing wrong with the story, it's basically all factual.

    The FACT is LSU over-signs, if you don't like the negative implications from that well maybe you should be hitting the institution that is doing these things.

    I actually enjoyed the piece, whether LSU was the centerpiece or not, to me not a good way of running a program. IMHO The solution is simple, stop doing it, unfortunately it looks like LSU is getting more into production on this and not stopping anything. I expect to see additional articles and pieces on LSU's over-signing for the 2011 class.

    The NCAA needs to get a handle on this and other things quickly or eventually you will see the federal government involved.
     
  7. OkieTigerTK

    OkieTigerTK Tornado Alley

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    garrett not being good enough is not relevant? how about he wasnt good enough because of his own sense of entitlement, letting himself turn into a hippo (seriously, did you see pics of how fat and out of shape he was?), and reports of "declining" to take reps during spring practice. he had coaches working one on one with him but he still refused to do what was asked of him to be able to remain on the team. reports (there are thread on this from the spring and summer) are that the coaches sat down with him and told him he needed to do x,y, and z to stay on the team. he didnt.

    if thats not being shown the door for not living up to his end of the bargain, i dont know what is.

    are we supposed to let all kids who have a sense of entitlement that refuse to do what is asked of them to maintain themselves, learn, and at least try to uphold their end of the bargain get a free ride?
     
  8. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    no it's not all factual. Ever been recruited? These kids know the drill. If you want to come to LSU you better work your arse off, if you don't you lose your scholly. It's that simple.

    Every school in the SEC does it, and as mentioned earlier in this thread, LSU isn't the main one. It's a complete hatchet job piece, that was put out to slam our University and paint our head coach as a villain, right in the home stretch of recruiting season.
     
  9. LSU-SIU

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    Doesn't matter, if it were not Garrett it would have been someone else along with Porter.

    Basically, the piece showed how Les operates and then he lied about it. Actually, I would suspect he wanted Garrett to stay as a walk-on. Les lost on the whole deal especially with Z. Lee jumping ship.

    It's irrelevant as to whether Garrett and Porter were good enough... they or someone had to go. This isn't rocket science.
     
  10. LSU-SIU

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    Sure is. LSU is a major oversigner. This year will make last year look like small peanuts. Many are going to have to go.
     

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