ESPN tries to murder LSU....

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  1. MFn G I M P

    MFn G I M P Founding Member

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    Perhaps you aren't paying attention because the SEC has a rule that limits signings to 28 a class... the big ten limit is 27.
     
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  2. TwistedTiger

    TwistedTiger Founding Member

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    The SEC does have a limit on scholarships per year.
     
  3. Hawker45

    Hawker45 Founding Member

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    Really?

    2010
    Auburn signed 32

    2009
    OLE MISS SIGNED 37
    Ark 31

    There are exceptions, then there are trends.
     
  4. LSU-SIU

    LSU-SIU Founding Member

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    I saw nothing wrong with the piece, watched Sunday morning. Most of it's factual.

    - LSU and I believe Alabama have been the leading candidates to the over-signing BS (many articles over the last year on this) and the SEC by far leads the NCAA.
    - Les over-signed and threw Porter out and if it wasn't Chris Garrett that was thrown out it would have been someone else.

    The only possible question of contested facts is what Chris Garrett said, no surprise Les declined to be interviewed because facts surrounding the situation does not bold well for Les's possible position.

    Sounds like to me with what is known, LSU signs Zack Lee, LSU signed too many, Garrett is then expendable. Instead of Les telling Chris during the meeting that his family is about to get a letter he chicken ****s out of it.

    The solution is simple, if you don't want more articles on this, stop over-signing. I mean this year they are already up to 19 players when there isn't even half of that available. Chances are you are going to have quite a few players thrown out at the last minute this year.

    Whether Porter or Garrett were good enough or not is irrelevant.
     
  5. TUSKtimes

    TUSKtimes Riding the Wave

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    The SEC 28 are not the ties that bind. Early entries don't count against the total numbers and then you also have sign and place options. It is the 25/85 NCAA rule that binds us all in the end. Back counts, grey shirts and sign and place will eventually get you to that most important number 25. How creative you are is simply up to each school.
     
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  6. Hawker45

    Hawker45 Founding Member

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    You would be very hard-pressed to find any post of mine regarding the SEC/LSU being dirty players. You would be even more hard-pressed to find any post regarding the civility of one conference over another. For God's Sake, man, Iowa went through a period in 2006-7 with players getting arrested that makes the problems Urban Meyer had at Florida look like child's play. Hell, we've got disruption this year on our team.
    That said, I have on a number of occasions defended the Big Ten (using data btw) to show that there may not be as wide a gap (the whole SEC conference dominance thing that pops up) that some may wish to believe. If you wish to read that as arrogant and transparent, then there's not much I can do to change your mind..... nor would I want to... it's your forum.
    If you don't want me adding thoughts from the "far side of the street" because they might be different than yours , have the mods kick my butt out of here. I can handle it... plus, you'd make my wife happy.
     
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  7. Hawker45

    Hawker45 Founding Member

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    Very true. The 85 rule is the common thread for all schools. What some have had to do "creatively" to get to the 85 is what created the storyline.
     
  8. TUSKtimes

    TUSKtimes Riding the Wave

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    Being one of the Grey beards I clearly recall life without scholly limits. You brought them in one door and for many out the back. Without a doubt the 25/85 rule has created parity and a sense of urgency on doing your due diligence on these recruits.

    If the NCAA is struggling with legislating against possible extortion (Scam Newton) How are they going to suddenly and fairly legislate intent on the part of a football coach?

    Short of the schools having to guarantee a scholarship for the full 4 year ride, the coaches everywhere are using as much creative math as possible. The issue is hardly who's doing it, but that it has been and continues to be a part of college football and has been forever.
     
  9. Hawker45

    Hawker45 Founding Member

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    Given the student athlete has violated the intent of the "contract" by exercising his "right" to transfer and the schools have violated the intent of the scholarship "contract" by pulling scholarships, it appears both sides have done enough historical damage that neither would have success in a court of law.
    It seems the fact that the scholarships are one year contracts subject to renewability is perhaps not being properly communicated to the students or parents when they sign up.
     
  10. vshouse

    vshouse Veteran Member

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    lol....come on now....the kid left LSU to go to Northwestern State.....and could not get the job done there....that should be enough said.....I know if I can't produce results at work....my behind will be shown the door......there's no difference.
     
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