EPA's own research expert 'shut up' on climate change

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  1. lsu-i-like

    lsu-i-like Playoff advocate

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    This doesn't make any sense. Because I don't make assumptions I am for big government. Because I like to be informed before I say something definitive I am for big government. Keep up with this argument, I'd like to see how long you can argue against a shadow.

    You aren't saying that public policy shouldn't be informed by science, are you? String theory and studying global warming don't really work in comparison for this argument.

    But your argument is that the global warming scientists are corrupt and aren't really scientists at all. You are arguing that scientists that are concerned about global warming all have an agenda. Or is it that you are arguing that politicians have taken the concerns of the scientists and are exaggerating the danger so that we won't focus on other important things? Or to keep the public in a state of alert and concern?

    I'm not real trusting when it comes to politicians, but I don't think scientists are pulling a fast one on us. The bill being proposed probably sucks, but I don't feel convinced nothing should be done. You haven't made a convincing argument that global warming doesn't deserve any attention.
     
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  2. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Typical martin ridicule of his opponent. We see it a lot when you offer no valid argument, no logical explanations, and no corroborating evidence.

    I ask for explanations because you make stuff up and expect us to believe it. My "position" clearly has nothing to do with backing up your own false claims or your inability to document them. I'll shine a spotlight on every one of them.

    I've already told you my position on the climate bill. have you forgotten already.

    First of all there is Post 29 in which I repeated my postition on the subject from other threads. I'll not list those again, go back and look on page 2. But I'll repreat my reiterations since then . . . just for you with your apparently short attention span.

     
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  3. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    hey thats great. yes or no on the bill from you, then we talk.
     
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  4. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    you too. yes or no on the climate bill, then we will talk. i dont understand why you guys are so afraid of addressing issues. you babble about nonsense without taking a position. i dont see the point.
     
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  5. lsu-i-like

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    :hihi:

    I'm not pretend voting on a bill I haven't read. I'd probably vote against it if I were a senator in martinland. Heh, I wonder what martinland would be like. A bleak place?
     
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  6. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    No, we won't. The answers would require logic from you. And support of the bill would require me to give a chit about it. I've already explained to you in detail and ad nauseum that I advocate the science of global warming, but I do not automatically advocate the politics of it. If you don't like that, I'm delighted. In Russia they call it toughghi chitski.
     
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  7. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    and so it is. the no answer twins. unable to take even the simplest yes or no stance on an important and real issue. eager to prod everyone else for their own stupid stance, but unwilling to weigh in themselves. cant be bothered, just allowing our leaders to cram whatever down our throat, without even the guts to agree or disagree.

    i dont understand why you let me make you look so ridiculous. but there are lots of things i do not understand.
     
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  8. lsu-i-like

    lsu-i-like Playoff advocate

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    You're the one giving up and making arguments against a preconceived notion rather than trying to have a serious conversation. I'm confused by your need for me to vote on this bill. I have told you where I stand on the idea. If you're tired of arguing against an unchanging figment of your imagination, I can't blame you. I think we'd have a much more interesting conversation if you actually listened to what I was saying, but it seems you are admitting that you just can't do that.

    I hope there are no dissenting opinions in martinland, cause if there are congress will become completely gridlocked.
     
    lsu-i-like, Jul 7, 2009
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    No one is fooled by your pompous ass act.
     
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  10. martin

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    pretty simple really, i like to discuss things with people who are willing to take a stand, people who have enough of an understanding of the issues to have a position on them. if you cant decide whether you favor something, i dont see what we are going to discuss.
     
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