EPA's own research expert 'shut up' on climate change

i dont know what that is. i just said i was happy for you guys. you need an ally, everyone else is on my side.

 

another entity on my side is the conservative smear rag, the wall street journal:

Strassel: The EPA Silences a Climate Skeptic - WSJ.com

 

when folks disagree with red, he accuses them of being limbaugh puppets (which he did to tirk in this thread). lsu i like is more a of a fan of accusing folks of being fox news/hannity slaves. and yet you guys are hi fiving about how we shouldnt apply preconcieved notions to people.

accusing me of being a fox news republican is truly absurd. i regularly do performance art where i wrap jesus in an american flag and poop on him. i am a pompous new york atheist that thinks he is better than the flyover state idiots. when churches burn down, i laugh and cheer. while hicks with fox news bumper stickers wave american flags at tractor pulls, i smugly ride my hipster fixed gear bike to the mapplethorpe exhibit.

but we need them to do something, right?

why?


The Cost of Doing Something

Declaiming the price of "inaction" is a perennial argument for big government and bad law

 

i think you lost a few here. watch richard lewis much?

 

thats true. my research actually indicated that cap and trade is a good idea and will save the planet. tirk had to dig deep to find a flaw with the messiah's plan. i was too lazy.

dishonesty is my middle name.

i would like to think there was never a time when i wasnt an amusing sidekick.

it is particularly easy to get off track from the "debate" when everyone here is nodding agreement with me except for two who have not decided. i have nothing to oppose.

 

Wha? I'm slamming "Republicans" here for bagging on Obama when they were eerily defensive or mute about similar subjects when Bush was in charge. I expect many of these people would continue that route had McCain been elected. I'm asking for intellectual honesty and this is based not on preconceived notions but on time spent reading Free Speech Alley.

Martin's arguments seem to regularly attack straw men of his own crazed imagination rather than what is actually being argued. Thus I begrudge his servitude to preconceived notions.

BTW, I am a registered Republican, I just don't follow the line.

So typical of Hannity-swilling Republocrats, blame liberals for everything.

Fug it. Smoke 'em if ya got 'em. If we spoil the earth our grandkids won't have sht, but why would we want to take the time to worry about anything other than what benefits us now, in the short term... :dis: I think the human relationship with our environment should be researched and taken seriously.

It doesn't matter to you. I understand. You feel you can stand alone on your own two feet without relying on anyone else. I disagree and appreciate intellectual honesty in a person. I don't think I know everything and look for others whose point of view I can trust, relatively speaking.

Heh, coming from you that is funny. I do call people out here, probably more than I should. I don't know everything, don't think that I do, but I do try to understand things fundamentally when I can. I do think I usually back up my statements when challenged and quite often you avoid large swaths of the points I've made. I respect the people here who speak with intellectual honesty, but I guess you're one of those internet dorks who thrives in yanking people's chains and doesn't take any online conversation seriously.

I oppose big government and am not a pupil of Fox News. Everytime I wake up I'm reminded, so don't give yourself any credit on that score.

 

assuming they are total hypocrites, would that make their accusations about obama any less true? why are you changing the topic to the person and not what they are saying?

again, "bush/mccain are terrible too" is not a valid defense of obama policy. can you speak to the current policy without worrying about who is a hypocrite?

why dont you disagree about whether the liberals are in fact to blame for whatever you are discussing? why are you so obsessed with hannity? who cares about that guy? why is he the topic?

the dude mentioned in this original post on this thread agreed with you. he wanted more research and less action. he wanted to reserve judgment before acting in ways that might be worse than doing nothing.

yes i am a a dork and a ****ing embarassment. now back to the topic. have you decided on the climate bill yet? still not sure?

that statement is clearly not true if you do not violently oppose this climate bill.

 

Bingo!