Just wondering if a viruse can become immune to treatment what would happen if they cloned something that they were unable to stop with any treatment for deadly then AIDS. Just curious. And how is that an obscure theroy name one discovery where there was not an equal negative draw back. maybe not immediate but there was one.
i do not understand the question. cloning dosent get out of control and zap out evil replica satanic armies. cloning is just using existing dna to make a replica of the original. just like women do when they have twins. still dont understand the question. you appear to be using your keyboard to type nonsense.
Ok maybe cloning was the wrong word how about just munipulation genes to create babies in the forms the parents want. There has got to be a penelty for playing with creation. ANd what I meant with the discovery thing was name me one great thing that was discoveried where there was not a negative draw back, since you said it is an obscure theroy.
This is a very good possibkity since I dicieded I didnt want to work today and started drinking when I got home at 11 this moring.
I don't claim brains work via magic. Dogs and cats have brains. They don't have souls. Human clones will not have a conscience. They will not know the ingrained difference between right and wrong, and it will be impossible to teach them. Of course there are many non-clones, for whatever reason, that also share the same character flaw. You seem to be one of these. [font=verdana,arial,helvetica][font=verdana,Arial, Helvetica] [/font][/font]
you clearly said human brains function via magic. Originally Posted by martin: how do you think your brain works then? how is your brain self aware? magic?" that sucks for dogs and cats that they dont have magic brains. what about coco that monkey who can talk via sign language, dies he/she have a soul? a twin is a clone, is that why one twin is always evil? yes i know, i worship satan. i also pray to jeebus that he not redeem my twisted soul. i challenge god to strike me down daily, but he is a punk and he is scared of me. hey guy, natural selection/evolution isnt chance. you need to learn the simplest and most elementary biology.
what we consider self awareness or "thought" emerges as a result of lots of computational number crunching power. the concept is appropriately called "emergence". let me give a dumb example. i read this somewhere: a scientist dude created some simulated creatures. he called them "boids" and they were just dots on a screen. he gave them about 4 or simple 5 rules they obey that govern their movement as a collective. like i think rule 1 was "when in a pack, always move towards the center" and rule 2 was "when trying to accomplish rule 1, do not get closer than x distance to the guy next to you." and so on. so then he started up the sim and watched how they moved, and they moved as if they were a real group of intelligent creatures whose movement was orchestrated and intelligent. but it wasnt, they were stupid. they only knew a couple things. what appeared to be intelligent behavior was not really, just the result of many many dummies acting according to a few simple rules. the intelligent designer and controller is not there. and ants are the example you always read about. yunno the traveling salesman optimization problem? yunno, there is a fella and he needs to visit x cities and come home do it an an order such that he does it most efficiently without wasted travel. and there is no real great algorithm to solve this problem, and trying to figure it out is a really computationally intensive problem, and does not guarantee an optimal result. know the problem i mean? problems like these are hard. well, anyways, ants are stupid. they dont know jack. but their behavior is such that as a collective they act very intelligently, and they can solve optimization problems similar to the traveling salesman problem very efficiently. like the boids i mentioned earlier, they know some simple rules. lets say an ant finds a piece of food. he retraces his steps and heads back to the nest with some of it. ants release a substance that can let other ants follow their path. so now the other ants can follow his path to the food he found. and his path is twice as smelly powerful, because he traveled it a second time when he came home. so now other ants are smelling it and taking his path to the food, but not necessarily taking the quickest path. ants know to take the smelliest path. and lets say another ant finds the same food, but he found a shorter path. he makes it back and forth faster so he treads his path the most and it gets stinkier than the longer path. and then yet another ant strays from his path and goes under the rock and around the tree and finds an even more effcient path that sends him doubling back even quicker. the path that is the quickest would send the ants back and forth the fastest and attract even more ants. so, even the ants are all dumb as grass, they have computed the quickest routes, while none of them even had any clue what they were doing. collectively they are geniuses. and our brains sort of work this way. we have gazillions of switches in our heads and they are collectively making decisions by turning off and on according to protocols, just like a computer. of course our brains know lots of complex rules and operations, so with all the rules and the gazillion nuerons firing, it comes off as pretty smart. and i am stupi, so my example wasnt good, but this sort of things happens all over the place. when you have many many many stupid things acting by a set of rules (for example nuerons in your head, or transistors or whatever on a computer chip, or boids or ants) they can exibit behavior that "emerges" from stupidity and appears intelligent. and self awareness is simply a function of supercomputational power. and everything we are is nothing more than a pattern of information. if we stopped time and could get an exact record of the electric and cchemical state of our brains and record that information on a disc, we could recreate us in a different body a million years from now. just like i can take the greatest piece of music ever recorded, and store it exactly with a pen and paper in the form of lots (and lots and lots) of ones and zeros, so can we do with a person. everything, including us, is just ones and zeros. so dispense with your souls and your magic. stop thinking like stupid children. realize that humans are nothing special, just smart robots, patterns of information. hoooowee that was long! better go back to my old sig.
We will all die one day... either our soul will go to heaven or we will just blink out like a light. No one knows. On another note, has anyone ever thought that maybe this is hell, we are in a sense, out of the sight of god and have had his word taken from us, because I have never seen nor heard him before. We are inherently cruel, and life revolves around pain and failure as much as pleasure and success... I mean I dont really believe that Hell is lakes of fire and brimstone.... or heaven is clouds and the vienna boys choir singing when you arrive. Maybe we were all terrible people before and this is our hell. Then again sometimes I think I am really in a coma and all that I have experienced is just a continuation through dreams from the moment of trauma to now. Just think about it, I know all of you have played football or been in a car accident, or a fight... some kind of traumatic event... you all know when it happens you get that flash.... and then you are back... what if in that flash you were knocked unconsious, brain damaged, and are really laying in some hospital bed... living your life as a vegatable, but you dont know it b/c you continue to live your life in dreams. As we all know, some **** seems very real in our dreams, pain, fear, sight smell color.... just goes to show... we never really know... Sorry for the wierd rant guys, I just question alot of ****, and when i was younger took alot of mind altering substances.
That was a joke. No. Did man create all twins? More empty shock rock from the TF.Com shock jock, Martin Stern!!! Give a round of applause! You act as if your long diatribes actually were some sort of proof and should be accepted as such.
