.....Emerald Green and Lemon Yellow.....

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  1. GiantDuckFan

    GiantDuckFan be excellent to each other Staff Member

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    things i never thought i'd see,...

    Robinson Canó is playing in his first minor league game since 2005, excluding rehab assignments, on Spongebob Night for the El Paso Chihuahuas
     
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    Father Time is still undefeated….
     
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    CalcoTiger Live Long and Prosper IVI

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    GDF I am a Giants Fan as well. Moved from SF area last june to Retire to San Antonio after 20 years out there .

    My wife worked for a company that had a suite at the stadium. Spent many a freezing night out there during the summer. You better dres warm for night games.

    Got to see some playoff and world series games in 2010 and 2012
     
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    i'm jealous about those playoff and world series games, very jealous

    yep, doesn't matter what the temperature is in the rest of the bay area, in San Francisco you have to dress right for Giants games

    one time i went to candlestick,.. in alameda it was hot, 94° a couple of hours before the game started at 4pm,.. we had another guy tag along, we didn't have three adjoining seats,. so we sat high up in the stadium where we could be together,.. our seats were in the shade,.. wasn't horrible at first, but the chill was relentless, penetrating, i got teeth chattering cold, froze to the bone,.. i had to go buy a too small overpriced sweatshirt just to survive,.. my buddy had a little flask of bourbon, or i don't think i'd a made it
     
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    Chipeace Country Roads Tiger

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    Cold in the shade, hot in the sun
     
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    CalcoTiger Live Long and Prosper IVI

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    I wasnt a 49er fan but friend from work had an extra ticket for a game at candlestick in the nose bleeds. Game went into early evening and i had a warm jacket and hat that covered my ears and still froze my tail off. wind was whipping at top of stadium.
     
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    Are you doing OK Duck? What's the reaction in Oregon about the UCLA/USC move?
     
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    Pac-12 survival guide: 5 forces that will define conference’s path to salvation, or extinction
    https://www.oregonlive.com/collegef...ferences-path-to-salvation-or-extinction.html

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    n coming days, weeks and months, the Pac-12 will plot a course to salvation … or go the way of the dodo.
    A range of outcomes exists following the loss of USC and UCLA to the Big Ten, from merging with a peer conference or expanding its ranks to sticking with 10 schools or vanishing from the landscape altogether.
    In an upcoming Pac-12 Hotline series, we’ll plunge into the specific scenarios.
    This introductory installment examines five broad issues that will shape our discussions and the future of the conference.

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    1. PAC-12 PRESIDENTS: THE HEAT IS ON
    Survival starts at the top, which should be cause for concern across the footprint.
    The conference has been pushed to the brink because the presidents and chancellors didn’t prioritize football, signed off on bad media strategies and waited too long to change commissioners.
    Now, they must settle on an identity for the reconfigured conference and determine which universities clear the barrier for entry.
    Will the membership standards in place for decades continue to exist with regard to academic reputation, political leanings and religious affiliation?
    If so, the path forward narrows considerably.
    Of all the presidents, we wonder most about Washington’s Ana Mari Cauce, who took over as chair of the Pac-12 board on Friday.
    If the Huskies eventually negotiate behind the scenes for invitations to the Big Ten or Big 12, that’s a massive conflict of interest.

    2. ANXIOUS DAYS, WORRISOME NIGHTS
    The next two weeks are vital. “We need things to slow down,” one Pac-12 source said, in order for a level of trust and sanity to return.
    At the moment, conference and campus leaders gather on Zoom calls and wonder who’s truly committed and whose face they might be seeing for the last time.
    The Big Ten appears finished with expansion, for now, so our focus turns to the Big 12 and its level of aggression.
    A year ago, the situation was reversed. Texas and Oklahoma had announced plans to move to the SEC, and the Big 12 was fighting for survival.
    The Pac-12 declined to merge but, by not poaching the most desirable schools, allowed the Big 12 to survive.
    Will the emboldened Big 12 turn around and attempt a kill shot, or return the favor and stand down?


    3. MEDIA PARTNER MOTIVATION

    For 10 years, Fox and ESPN have been equal owners of the Pac-12′s media rights.
    That shared interest probably won’t continue once the current contract expires in spring 2024.
    Fox orchestrated what could be the knockout blow and is the puppet-master behind the Big Ten’s raid of the Los Angeles schools.The move suggests that Fox will have little interest in Pac-12 media rights in the next contract cycle. Most, if not all, of its cash will be spent on the Big Ten and the expanded College Football Playoff.
    Meanwhile, ESPN could play a key role in rescuing the Pac-12.
    When the next contract cycle begins, ESPN will control all ACC and SEC football content but perhaps very little — or none — of the Big Ten’s inventory.
    That’s significant, because ESPN has more shelf space than Fox due to additional linear networks (ESPN2) and its commitment to a digital platform (ESPN+).
    It needs viable college football in the Central, Mountain and Pacific time zones in order to fill all those broadcast windows.
    Given the desperation level of the Pac-12 and Big 12, whose current media deal expires in 2025, their inventory will undoubtedly be available for whatever price ESPN is willing to pay.
    ESPN can name the terms and, if desired, dictate which schools are in which league.


    4. THE TENT POLE SCHOOLS

    Of the 80-something major college football programs not bound to the SEC, Big Ten or ACC — and are not Notre Dame — the Pac-12 owns the two most valuable in the media marketplace: Washington and Oregon.
    If we assume the door to the Big Ten is closed and the Huskies and Ducks are committed to the Pac-12, if only for lack of ideal options, they provide real leverage.
    Leverage the conference can use with ESPN or other interested media companies.
    Leverage the conference can use with schools in the Big 12 or Mountain West that might be expansion targets.
    Leverage the conference can use with current Pac-12 schools pondering a jump to the Big 12.
    With the Huskies and Ducks, there is a foundation to move forward.
    The Pac-12 must make optimum use of its purple and green carrots.

    5. STATE SCHOOL POLITICS
    UCLA’s separation from Cal — the campuses share the same university system and board of regents — is one of our lingering curiosities about the L.A. departures.
    And the future of the Pac-12 could hinge on the degree to which remaining state schools are bound to move in lockstep
    Could Arizona State bolt for the Big 12 and leave Arizona behind?
    Could Washington head to the Big Ten (eventually) and kiss WSU goodbye?
    Could Oregon do whatever Phil Knight wants without regard for Oregon State?
    Political forces vary by the state, and we won’t begin to guess how each situation could play out.
    But it’s a key piece to the Pac-12′s future shape … or disappearance.
     
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    Great analysis. For those of us who loved all the traditions of college football, this along with NIL & the transfer portal is so unsettling. And yes, my conference (the SEC) put all the conference shuffling in play. I have to wonder if they even considered the ramifications when when they invited. UT & Okla. to join. Or did they just didn’t care?
     
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    the players started bolting to the NFL early,.. the hardship transfer waver was abused, allowing more and more players to transfer without penalty,.. the best players started skipping bowl games, team loyalty took a backseat,.. coaches had no loyalty to the schools, they said nice things fans wanted to hear, smiling lies, then left, following the money,.. the transfer portal opened wide, changing everything, one coach said something like, "we're afraid of the players now, make em mad, and they go somewhere else",.. .. don't get me started about NIL, it will be the death punch to the game we've loved

    the players and coaches don't care about the schools,.. other than the $150 jerseys that they peddle us, which say LSU or Oregon, the college game has nothing to do with the universities anymore,.. the game has become about espn and fox sports,.. schedules and game times are dictated by them, network executives control the game we love,.. the only loyalty in college football comes from the fans,. and we're not appreciated,. what we want doesn't matter.. the fans are shit on by all of the above

    so much about college football isn't about football anymore, it's horribly overloaded with unwanted baggage,.. for me the joy has been depleted

    i think the NFL is my path now,.. it's more about football
     
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