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GiantDuckFan said: ↑

shows how far we've advanced,.. when I was 3 or 4 we still had an old type phone where you spoke into a horn,.. and we were on a party line,.. I'd listen in on the neighbors, laugh or join in, boy they hated that, one time a gal came over and chewed out my Grandad, got me in trouble, the next time I got my ass whupped.
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We never had a party line I guess because we didn't live out in the country but my dad talked about having one in the small town he grew up in.

If that was really your first phone you are a lot older than I thought.

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For you to ingest. There's much more research on this if you're curious. This was just the first article I found but I read the same thing a decade ago and found it to be true.

Exploding the Fiber Myth: What You Might Not Know that Could Be Hurting You

By Dr. Eric Berg

There are a lot of myths surrounding fiber, especially about how much fiber we need daily, how good fiber is for us, how much fiber we need to cleanse the colon, and where we should get our fiber, and these myths have been pretty pervasive for a long time now.

Exploding the Myths about Fiber

Do you know those people who have those very distended, swollen, basketball-looking bellies? One of the main causes of this kind of big belly is not always necessarily fat. In fact, it could merely be bloating in the intestines because they’re consuming too much fiber.

This fiber myth has been around 30 years now—this myth that the more fiber you eat, the more you will decrease your likelihood of developing colon cancer. This is a myth because eating too much fiber might actually increase your risk of developing colon cancer.

When you are constipated, sometimes the doctor will tell you to eat more fiber or to take Metamucil or other synthetic forms of fiber, and you might experience some relief in constipation, but that is because of the negative things this extra fiber is doing to your colon, not the positives. See, what all this fiber really does is irritate and stimulate the colon, making it dump waste faster.

Fiber isn’t even necessarily forming the bulk of your stool.

Here’s What Happens in the Body When We Take/Eat Too much Fiber

Here’s what really happens from this fiber, especially when we get our fiber from whole grains, bran, Metamucil and other over-the-counter fibers people take. These forms of fiber create a lot of inflammation in the colon and cause a lot of mechanical damage as the fiber passes through the intestines as well.

See, one myth that people have about fiber is that it improves digestion because it slows down the digestive process. The only reason it does this, though, is because it actually impedes the digestive process. And impeding the digestive process can create a host of problems including heartburn, ulcers, constipation, IBS, chronic inflammation, and Crohn’s disease.

Any undigested fiber in your gut is basically food for undigested microbes. That’s why if you eat too much fiber, you get gas. These undigested microbes are becoming fermented in the gut, just as when you make beer, bread, and other alcohols.

That’s why too much fiber can create an over-gas situation because all of these bacteria are basically going crazy in the gut, causing fermentation and, consequently, causing you to blow up like balloon, where your stomach looks distended and swollen.

Too much fiber can be particularly damaging if it’s let to go, untreated, for a period of time.

So, How Am I Getting Too Much Fiber Anyway?

The ways you could be getting too much fiber in your diet could be in that you’re eating too many grains, or it could be that you’re eating too many of certain types of vegetables, especially cruciferous vegetables like kale, broccoli, Brussel’s sprouts, cabbage, cauliflower, and even avocados. Kale, by the way, is the least fibrous of the cruciferous vegetables.

Why would these vegetables be problematic? Well, they can create bloating, and if you bloat from those vegetables, this merely means that you have not established enough good bacteria in your gut to digest them properly.

And some people can enjoy these vegetables with no gut reactions at all.

Myself, in the past, I had the biggest problem with broccoli. I would have so much abdominal pain that I would double over. And even in when I only had traces of broccoli in certain foods, like broccoli soup, it would still do that.

What I eventually did so that I could enjoy the nutrient properties of these vegetables without experiencing any negative reactions such as gas and bloating is to juice them. When I began juicing broccoli, for example, and I was able to drink this juice with no negative reactions, I knew that the problem was the fiber.

Some people bloat from cereal, and that’s because cereal grains and bran can really cause a lot of distention in the gut.

See, you have more nerves in your gut than you have in your spinal column. That’s why today, the gut is called by many doctors, “the second brain.”

If the gut is not right, then the brain is not right, and you can experience a host of mental and psychological disorders from forgetfulness, to brain fog, to attention-deficit disorder, to a lack of ability to focus, to inhibited higher executive thinking, to anxiety, to depression, to sleep problems and all kinds of other mental/psychological disorders.

What you want to do is to make sure fiber is not the culprit. So what I highly advise is a log. Create a diary of what you eat and how it reacts within your gut. This way you can avoid or find new ways to get these vegetables in your diet, that don’t create such negative reactions in your body. You really don’t want to eat anything that causes irritation to the colon or bloating and gas, especially when you’re on a quest to eat clean, eat healthy, and lose weight.

So what should you eat for fiber and optimum gut health?

1. First, you want to avoid grains, bran, cereals, and all of those kinds of fibrous foods that are often high in sugars and carbohydrate as well.

2. And, you might want to switch your vegetables to zucchini, spinach, lettuce, romaine lettuce, celery, string beans, squash, tomatoes, beets, asparagus, cucumbers, all those are usually low reaction foods that contain healthy fiber.

Today, so many people think that fiber is helping them, but it is actually destroying the gut in all kinds of unhealthy ways.

So try experimenting with vegetables, keeping a symptom log, so that you can find what works and does not work for your body, and try the other tips I have offered you above, so that you can find a balance with fiber that works for you, enabling you to get the vitamins and nutrients you need, with no stress on the gut.

And you might want to consider a great probiotic to enhance the gut flora so that you can eventually eat a wider array of vegetables and, eventually, more fibrous vegetables as well.

Please comment below and let me hear your voice.

Thank you,

Dr. Berg

False Claim #1: Dietary Fiber Prevents Colon Cancer

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/fiber-full-story/#colon

False Claim #2. Fiber Prevents Breast Cancer

http://cebp.aacrjournals.org/cgi/content/full/13/8/1283

False Claim #3: Fiber Reduces The Risk of Heart Disease

http://www.gutsense.org/reports/transcript.html

http://www.gutsense.org/fibermenace/fm_transcript.html#breast cancer
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Tirk, some good stuff here and I encourage researching and educating yourself for sure. The one part I didn’t see discussed is the effect of a fiber rich diet has on insulin. Fiber is thought to be a regulator of sugar. If you eat an apple, the apple has sugar, but also protein and fiber. The protein competes with the sugar for absorption and fiber sort of acts as a gatekeeper/toll booth so to speak. This allows slow entry of sugar, thus a controlled insulin response. Contrast that with apple juice - no protein or fiber, just sugar water. The sugar is unfettered, stimulates a shit load of insulin that then sends the excess sugar into storage (fat) and then sends signals to the brain saying “I’m not full”, stimulating more calorie intake.

So, the health benefits of fiber are less linked to the passage through the intestinal system itself, although it can help you feel full, and more to do with insulin. I would be thinking about fiber rich foods for that reason. I’m not a huge fan of fiber cereal for reasons mentioned in the article.

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Less words...more cheerleadera

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GDF sup with the ducks homie?
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Last year udub beat the Ducks 70-29,.. Saturday, Huskies won 38-3,.. that's better, right? We played well in the first half, the second was ugly. We had 31 yards total passing,.. 31 fuck, that sums up our biggest problem.

Our top notch sophomore QB has missed 5 games with a broken collar bone, some speculation that he would play against Washington. Probably was wise not to rush him back, doubt we'd have won with him,.. huskies are near top 5 good.

Ducks have a bye next week, then finish at home vs Arizona and Oregon State,.. two winnable games. It's probable/I'm hoping, we finish 7-5 and go to the Las Vegas Bowl, (an espn guy matches us up there against Boise St, which would be fun). Justin Herbert's injury really took the wind out of our sails.

We've played a ton of freshman this year, Oregon's 2018 class is ranked #1 in the country by scout,.. I expect big improvement next year

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We never had a party line I guess because we didn't live out in the country but my dad talked about having one in the small town he grew up in.

If that was really your first phone you are a lot older than I thought.
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I'm 63,.. rural poor small town, Klamath Falls was and remains, backwards.

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GiantDuckFan said: ↑

I'm 63,.. rural poor small town, Klamath Falls was and remains backwards.
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First phone I remember looked like this.

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Bengal B said: ↑

We never had a party line I guess because we didn't live out in the country but my dad talked about having one in the small town he grew up in.

If that was really your first phone you are a lot older than I thought.
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When I was a kid we had one. I was a latchkey kid and one time needed to call my mom and someone was on the phone and wouldn't get off. When mom found out she cancelled it and got a single line

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I remember that game. 94 was taunting someone and Legarrette Blount came up and smoked him.. I think that straight right to the jaw knocked him out old, IIRC. He just better be glad Blount had a glove on or he might have been sipping his meals for a couple of months.

So, how do you think Taggart's done up to now? Or is it hard to tell because of the injuries, especially to you're highly touted QB?

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Yeah, I wanted to post something along those lines afterwards, but never done that before. Sure it’s not hard, just haven’t ever done it.

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I remember that game. 94 was taunting someone and Legarrette Blount came up and smoked him.. I think that straight right to the jaw knocked him out old, IIRC. 94 just better be glad Blount had a glove on or he might have been sipping his meals for a couple of months.

So, how do you think Taggart's done up to now? Or is it hard to tell because of the injuries, especially to you're highly touted QB?
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The team attitude is much better, I love what I'm seeing on defense, we really pressure the QB, with good solid tackling, a real improvement,.. down side is our young touted secondary is being chewed up every week, LB pass coverage too.

I haven't been impressed with our play calling, seems pretty vanilla,.. although we had next to no returning WRs or TEs. Duck fans are accustomed to seeing excellent punt and kick returns, this year nothing, very disappointing. Way way too many penalties on both sides of the ball.

I didn't realize how bare the cupboards were this year, I thought we had more. Taggart and staff have done well,.. but with Herbert back, if we don't win the next two games, the season will be a disappointment.

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