Election 2020

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  1. Winston1

    Winston1 Founding Member

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    No one says vaccines are the complete answer. However the data says they’re critical and I’m giving you statistics from right here where we know the facts? Who knows how accurate the report from India is. Why don’t you go there and find out?
     
  2. onceanlsufan

    onceanlsufan Founding Member

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    Likewise, who knows how accurate our statistics are! I'm not antivaxx ... but, their importance is way overrated. In particular, the false claim that vaccines have anything to do with spread! Preventing spread necessitates preventing the upper respiratory tract infection ... as that is where spread (the coughed out sneezed out particles) originate. Vaccines do nothing for this. Vaccines save the life of the vulnerable by preventing lower respiratory tract pneumonia and systemic infections leading to clots. Two months after your vaccine, there are ZERO antibodies present in the upper respiratory tract mucus. NONE .. Notta!
    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33320052/
    " Indeed, preclinical studies of adenovirus and mRNA candidate vaccines demonstrated persistent virus in nasal swabs despite preventing COVID-19. This suggests that systemically vaccinated patients, while asymptomatic, may still be become infected and transmit live virus from the upper airway. COVID-19 is known to spread through respiratory droplets and aerosols. "

    BTW ... take a look at the names of all your mainstream scientists these days!! ..... you'll find a LOT of Indians running that show! I wouldn't be too quick to throw India under the bus.
     
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  3. onceanlsufan

    onceanlsufan Founding Member

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    He DID!
     
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  4. Winston1

    Winston1 Founding Member

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    Once or twice. It took him months to admit he had been vaccinated. If he had hyped vaccines (which he deserves great credit for) as much as he did alternative treatment he might have won in November. It’s one of the mysteries of the election how he fumbled the two biggest weapons he had, the summer riots (defund the police) and the vaccines. He might have really won.
     
  5. Jmg

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    trump does encourage vaccination. he is himself vaccinated.

    if people die more, so be it. personal choice is more important than life or death. you can mandate vaccines and mabye it would save lives. so what. doesnt justify forcing something into people' veins. their body, their choice.

    if i wanna risk it, leave me alone. if might go unvaxxed and die. or not. its my right. or maybe i could get the vaccine and grow an extra butt in 3 years. please let me choose and dont make the govt my master.

    live free or die
     
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  6. Kikicaca

    Kikicaca Meaux

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    Not yet.
     
  7. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    Data says stop eating cheese burgers.
     
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  8. Frogleg

    Frogleg Registered Best

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    Critical? Define critical? It's gonna be an ever moving target, like flatten the curve. Next, boosters will be critical, then yearly boosters, then flu vaccines, etc...What about all those super high sugar consumer goods, like Coke, Pepsi, Ding dongs? All those ICU beds are waiting for people ravaged by the modern American diet. Mandatory limits and bans on those products would save more Americans than China Virus could dream of killing. The mandates and bans and censorship will be endless and all defined as critical.
    Our freedom won't be curved it will be flat lined. Wake up.
     
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  9. Jmg

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    the great unspoken factor in america is that obesity is a fucking disaster. i am maybe 20 pounds overweight myself at the moment, which makes me a slender handsome fit hero by modern standars, where here is baton rouge basically every person is fatter than i am. and often not just fatter, but fucking disgustingly fat.

    i wish the media would harp on it. stop advocating for the vaccine and start advocating for walking more, and taking the food pyramid and throwing it in the garbage.

    being fit is basically the same as covid immunity, unless you are ancient
     
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  10. tigermark

    tigermark Rematches suck!

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    I am much more concerned about the accuracy of the data coming from the CDC and painted by the MSM. They have lied over and over again. The latest is that the unvaccinated are causing this recent spike. I just don't buy it. Reminds me of the lie that they pushed that Trump counties fared so much worse that Biden counties in the Winter spike.

    https://medium.com/dunder-data/analyzing-an-extremely-deceiving-covid-deaths-graph-18493d7b7d5f

    The initial "epidemic of the unvaccinated" quotes when this spike started were based on data from January to June. Of course it was with those dates! All the cases happened in January and February when no one was vaccinated. Those are the kinds of lies that make me read data from England, Scotland, Israel, and India to see if I can glean any truth about what is going on. And the data from there is telling us that this is anything but a pandemic of the unvaccinated but instead an increase of danger for older folks with the jab.

    The real tragedy is that they did not pour a shit ton of money at studies for treatments and instead poured everything into the vaccine while actively suppressing any talk of treatments. Sick.
     
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