Election 2020

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  1. Kikicaca

    Kikicaca Meaux

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    How would he know I kicked his ass?
     
  2. kcal

    kcal Founding Member

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    APPTiger still unable to post Geaux Tigers!

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    So apparently many who swallowed Ms Powell’s Kraken story hook line and sinker need a new line to follow. She claims it was so preposterous that only fools would believe her. Hmmmm
    Sidney Powell argues in new court filing that no reasonable people would believe her election fraud claims

    Updated 8:15 AM EDT March 23, 2021
    Washington

    Right-wing lawyer Sidney Powell is claiming in a new court filing that reasonable people wouldn't have believed as fact her assertions of fraud after the 2020 presidential election.

    The election infrastructure company Dominion Voting Systems sued Powell for defamation after she pushed lawsuits and made appearances in conservative media on behalf of then-President Donald Trump to sow doubt about the 2020 election results. Dominion claims that Powell knew her election fraud accusations were false and hurtful to the company.

    In a new court filing, Powell's attorneys write that she was sharing her "opinion" and that the public could reach "their own conclusions" about whether votes were changed by election machines.

    "Given the highly charged and political context of the statements, it is clear that Powell was describing the facts on which she based the lawsuits she filed in support of President Trump," Powell's defense lawyers wrote in a court filing on Monday.

    "Indeed, Plaintiffs themselves characterize the statements at issue as 'wild accusations' and 'outlandish claims.' They are repeatedly labelled 'inherently improbable' and even 'impossible.' Such characterizations of the allegedly defamatory statements further support Defendants' position that reasonable people would not accept such statements as fact but view them only as claims that await testing by the courts through the adversary process."

    Election authorities and Dominion have resoundingly called Trump's loss in the election accurate and untainted by any possible major security risks. Trump's lawyers and his allies quickly lost or dropped all but one minor case out of nearly 60 following the election, as the then-President sought to overturn Joe Biden's win in multiple key states.

    Though the Trump campaign had sought to distance itself from Powell after she held a conspiracy-filled news conference with his other attorneys, Trump had told people he liked Powell's arguments and wanted to see more of her on television.

    In one chaotic Oval Office meeting in December, Trump said he had considered naming her as a special counsel to investigate voter fraud allegations

    Besides Powell, the meeting included her client, former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn, two people familiar with the matter previously told CNN, describing a session that began as an impromptu gathering but devolved and eventually broke out into screaming matches at certain points, as some of Trump's aides pushed back on Powell and Flynn's more outrageous suggestions to overturn the election.

    The following day, Trump's campaign legal team sent a memo to dozens of staffers instructing them to preserve all documents related to Dominion Voting Systems and Powell, in anticipation of litigation by the company.

    The lawsuit -- filed in January -- outlined Powell's TV appearances and online posts in extraordinary detail, including when she repeated her unfounded beliefs that Dominion was linked to communist Venezuela and Georgia officials were in on election fraud.

    "Emboldened by Trump's endorsement of her false accusations, which launched her into political superstardom, Powell's defamatory media campaign continued and intensified" with her media appearances, Dominion alleged in its lawsuit.

    A former federal prosecutor based in Texas, Powell rose to prominence through her criticism of the Robert Mueller investigation and her promotion of right-wing conspiracy theories about a range of topics on social media.

    Powell also claims in court that her statements about the 2020 election were a "matter of public concern" about a publicly known company, Dominion, and thus protected speech.

    Her attorneys also claim she had a right to make accusations because she was acting as an attorney for the Trump campaign, even during her right-wing TV appearances. As a result, Powell is asking a judge in Washington, DC, to dismiss the case, or to allow it to be moved to the federal court in Texas.

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  5. Winston1

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    Oh yes @tirk whats going on with the arrest of Gina Haspel? The world wonders.
     
  6. kcal

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    the rachel maddow defense
     
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    his sources failed him....

    hasn’t happened before, could never happen again....
     
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    GiantDuckFan be excellent to each other Staff Member

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    WASHINGTON, D.C. — A former lawyer for Donald Trump who made several false claims of voter fraud in regard to the 2020 presidential election is now arguing that “no reasonable person” would have believed her conspiracy theories.


    Lawyers for Sidney Powell make the argument in a court filing in hopes of getting a $1.3 billion defamation lawsuit filed against her by Dominion Voting Systems dismissed, CNN reports. Dominion filed the lawsuit in January.
     
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    the rachel maddow defense....

    https://www.newsbreak.com/news/1481...words-are-not-facts-in-defense-to-oan-lawsuit
    Rachel Maddow argues her words are not facts in defense to OAN lawsuit

    Back in September, we reported that TV network OAN had filed a lawsuit against Rachel Maddow for the time the host said that OAN “really, literally is paid Russian propaganda.”


    Now, Maddow finds herself having to come up with a defense for her statement in court. And she has also apparently hired Lionel Hutz as her legal adviser.


    According to Culttture, her lawyers argued in a recent motion that “…the liberal host was clearly offering up her ‘own unique expression’ of her views to capture what she saw as the ‘ridiculous’ nature of the undisputed facts. Her comment, therefore, is a quintessential statement ‘of rhetorical hyperbole, incapable of being proved true or false.”

     
  10. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    All I am going to say is that I quick Ctrl F on the document you linked does not support CNN's claims. In the court documents, Sidney is saying that:

    “When ‘the bases for … the conclusion are fully disclosed, no reasonable reader would consider the term anything but the opinion of the author drawn from the circumstances related.’” I could not find in the court documents via the search method where she said
    1. "She claims it was so preposterous that only fools would believe her"
    2. "now arguing that “no reasonable person” would have believed her conspiracy theories."

    I dont care, but we should not take the media's word or anyone's word without looking for ourselves.

    It is funny CNN lies while calling someone a liar.

    Also, my final point in this thread, people should use words accurately.
     
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