Election 2020

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  1. Jmg

    Jmg Veteran Member

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    its rude to distract and deflect by speakign for emotions of others
     
  2. kcal

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    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/report-trump-commission-did-not-find-widespread-voter-fraud
    Report: Trump commission did not find widespread voter fraud
    Politics Aug 3, 2018 5:14 PM EST
    Politics Aug 3, 2018 5:14 PM EST

    PORTLAND, Maine — The now-disbanded voting integrity commission launched by the Trump administration uncovered no evidence to support claims of widespread voter fraud, according to an analysis of administration documents released Friday.

    In a letter to Vice President Mike Pence and Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach, who are both Republicans and led the commission, Maine Secretary of State Matthew Dunlap said the documents show there was a “pre-ordained outcome” and that drafts of a commission report included a section on evidence of voter fraud that was “glaringly empty.

    “It’s calling into the darkness, looking for voter fraud,” Dunlap, a Democrat, told The Associated Press. “There’s no real evidence of it anywhere.”

    Republican President Donald Trump convened the commission to investigate the 2016 presidential election after making unsubstantiated claims that between 3 million and 5 million ballots were illegally cast. Critics, including Dunlap, reject his claims of widespread voter fraud.

    The Trump administration last month complied with a court order to turn over documents from the voting integrity commission to Dunlap. The commission met just twice and has not issued a report.

    “There’s no real evidence of it anywhere.”
    Dunlap’s findings received immediate pushback Friday from Kobach, who acted as vice-chair of the commission while Pence served as chair.

    “For some people, no matter how many cases of voter fraud you show them, there will never be enough for them to admit that there’s a problem,” said Kobach, who is running for Kansas governor and has a good chance of unseating the incumbent, Jeff Colyer, in the Republican primary Tuesday.

    “It appears that Secretary Dunlap is willfully blind to the voter fraud in front of his nose,” Kobach said in a statement released by his spokesman.


    Kobach said there have been more than 1,000 convictions for voter fraud since 2000, and that the commission presented 8,400 instances of double voting in the 2016 election in 20 states.


    “Had the commission done the same analysis of all 50 states, the number would have been exponentially higher,” Kobach said.


    In response, Dunlap said those figures were never brought before the commission, and that Kobach hasn’t presented any evidence for his claims of double voting. He said the commission was presented with a report claiming over 1,000 convictions for various forms of voter misconduct since 1948.

    Pence’s office did not immediately respond to a request for comment Friday.

    Dunlap said he is unsure whether the administration has released all relevant documents, and said the matter is in litigation. He said he was repeatedly rebuffed when he sought access to commission records including meeting materials, witness invitations and correspondence.

    He released his findings on a website.

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    Associated Press writer John Hanna in Topeka, Kansas, contr

    so.... in this article, we see much of what we see today. One side doesn't see any, one side see a lot, and neither can agree on the evidence...
     
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  3. Winston1

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    Interesting that this dispute is between 2 Republicans. It seems also that the volume of fraud in either case is pretty small and wouldn’t change the outcome either way.
    There should be no tolerance for fraud but also a realistic view of the impact.
     
  4. kcal

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    it was dem/gop. the Maine SOS is a dem and kobach a GOP
     
  5. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    And I’m sure you believed her when she says she’s a virgin because she only did anal.
     
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    GiantDuckFan be excellent to each other Staff Member

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    but but...
     
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    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    And?
     
  9. GiantDuckFan

    GiantDuckFan be excellent to each other Staff Member

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    I was talking to Martin
     
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