Larry Schweikart @LarrySchweikart Well, hate to say I told you but I warned you over a week ago that Team Trump was playing "small ball" on technicalities of a few hundred votes here, 10,000 there, but nothing that would actually overturn several states via fraud. This seems to confirm that.
"First, a disclaimer: I did not listen to the argument as it took place, and I do not think a transcript has been published yet. So I do not know the actual content on the hearing, only what was reported in a couple of “live blog” efforts, both of which were anti-Trump partisans so I didn’t expect them to have anything favorable to say about the presentation on behalf of the Plaintiffs in the case." 1st paragraph.
"The reason the argument on “standing” for either voters or candidates was important was that only the Supreme Court can issue a decision that changes the current law on the subject. Judge Brann must rule in a way that he believes higher courts have directed that he rule in this kind of case with this same kind of litigant. The Third Circuit will face the same issue if they hear the case. But the Supreme Court can change the law if it chooses to. That is why the record of the case and the record of today’s motion was important. The argument needed to be made as to why a losing candidate should be allowed to challenge what he claims were fraudulent election processes used by state officials to the detriment of his campaign. Judge Brann could not, on his own, change the law in that regard, but the argument needed to be made to him in an appropriate fashion. And that is not a Fox News panel discussion on “pervasive fraud” which seemed to be Rudy’s theme for the day."
What is your point? The author says he got his information from two anti-Trump bloggers.... I can find better information in a port-a-potty....
according to the writer rudy didn't approach this from the proper legal perspective. time will tell. i do however doubt you will find better info in a port-a-potty, but you can keep us up to date on that....
let's try this one.... https://www.inquirer.com/news/trump...liani-hearing-case-williamsport-20201117.html Rudy Giuliani and Trump’s last-stand push to overturn Pa.’s election results get a frosty reception in court by Jeremy Roebuck, Updated: November 17, 2020- 9:33 PM Seeking to inject some star power into his foundering legal effort to invalidate Pennsylvania’s election results, President Donald Trump handed the case to Rudy Giuliani on Tuesday. But rather than salvage it, the former New York mayor found himself grilled for hours by a skeptical federal judge over his unsupported claims of a conspiracy to steal the election. During a five-hour hearing in Williamsport, U.S. District Judge Matthew Brann appeared mystified as Giuliani asserted without evidence that a “Mafia-like” cabal of Democratic leaders in cities nationwide used mail ballots to rig the election in Joe Biden’s favor. The judge seemed equally perplexed by the Trump campaign’s proposed remedy: that he should bar Pennsylvania from certifying its final vote tally. “At bottom, you’re asking this court to invalidate some 6.8 million votes thereby disenfranchising every single voter in the commonwealth,” Brann said. “Can you tell me how this result could possibly be justified?” Giuliani, a last-minute addition to the Trump team’s legal roster for the pivotal hearing, personally presented the campaign’s arguments in court. In the first federal case he has argued in nearly three decades, he varied between struggling, at times, to comprehend the judge’s questions on finer points of the law and boldly speculating, at others, about widespread fraud and malfeasance. “If this is allowed without serious sanction, it’s going to become an epidemic,” Giuliani said. “It’s already happened. You give them an inch, they’ll take a mile. They stole an election, at least in this commonwealth.”
The strategy isn't to win here. I dont think they thought they ever could. Its to get it to the SC and then drop everything they have. They have like 8 different active suits in PA alone. Just probably probing right now. Buying time.
