Election 2020

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  1. Jmg

    Jmg Veteran Member

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    you dont want a president, you want a father or king.

    we are a small govt capitalist democracy. we dont need heroes to lead us to our goals. we do things on our own.

    this virus doesnt require any leadership. he could never say a word or lift a finger and it would be fine. we are not trying to build tanks or submarines to beat china. we are dealing with a minor illness that kills .02% of people that are not already old as fuck. the average age of a covid death is older than the normal death age.

    again, i will tell you all you need to know. be very careful not to infect your parents or grandparents. if you are under 60, ignore it and live your life. the end. go on with your life.
     
  2. Jmg

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    we knew how severe it was. there was no need to panic. we never should have even closed schools.

    they should use better passwords. and none of that is trumps fault, nor were you prevented from voting for clinton if you wanted.

    polls are not secret. paul manafort can tell him every poll in history for all i care. just go vote hillary if you didnt like manafort.
     
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  3. Jmg

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    how do you know this will work?

    now we have a better relationship with N korea than we did before. that is progress

    i am suggesting that you dont want to have antagonistic relationships with anyone. relationships are complicated. maybe you noticed trump helped broker some very important deals with israel. he didnt do that by telling the UAE and bahrain to suck his cock. he wants to be friends with everyone, and that is fine.

    plus, dictators are legitmate leaders. you have to treat them like they are. you might not like putin or duterte, but the russians and filipinos do, and its their right to be ruled by an asshole. so be it. be real.
     
  4. Winston1

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    Not really. Reagan May have been a celebrity but he spent years studying and developing his political philosophy. He was disciplined and involved. Trump is none of those
     
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    Trump has been the most pro life president ever. Trump moved the embassy to Jerusalem. Trump brokered peace in the Middle East and has been thrice nominated for the Nobel peace prize. Try being more objective...
     
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    Were Reagan or GHW Bush either? Was Churchill? In times of crisis there are different requirements. You’re just spitballing bs because you don’t want to face facts.
    So you say it’s not a crisis yet how much has our economy been damaged by the response? In a little over 8 months 220000 people have died, millions are out of work our debt has quadrupled and exceeds the GDP for the first time since WWII. If that’s not a crisis what is? Trump as president and supposed leader is ultimately responsible. Yet he takes no responsibility. Where’s the leadership in that?
    Martin I understand and generally agree with your small government libertarian POV. However I do think it is the solution to everything. Sometimes we need more. It’s our responsibility to see it changes back when the crisis is over.
     
  7. Jmg

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    we made this into far bigger of a crisis than it had to be. trump, by minimizing it is helping us.

    people should stop freaking out and go back to work and school. again, there is one really important thing: protect the old folks. everything else is fine. dont make a mountain out of a molehill. this isnt a real monster crisis.

    be sweden. they are back to normal.
     
  8. Winston1

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    And what does any of that have to do with his handling of the Covid crisis?
    Reagan ended the Cold War he cut taxes and established the basis for the next 40 years of prosperity. He reformed social security and insured its extended life. He passed more pro business legislation. All of these in the face of a hostile congress where Republicans were in a permanent minority.
    So Jimmy Carter brokered peace in the Middle East? Did that make him a great leader?
    That is objectivity
     
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    He didn’t do a very good job of it did he? If he’s a great president shouldn’t he have been able to do better?
     
  10. Jmg

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    my point is i dont expect him to do anything. i expect you to be able to figure out not to go sneeze on grandpas
     
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