Economy - 2008

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  1. luvdimtigers

    luvdimtigers Founding Member

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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    No. They are not. This is simply nonsense, you can't paint this crew with a liberal brush. They are republican through and through and republicnas backed him all the way and obviously still are backing them at the same time that they want to blame all of their failures on the "liberals" they were "imported" from.

    Ok, list for us the neocons in the Bush administration who were " imported" from the godless socialist democrats.

    Anyone? Anyone? Buehler?
     
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    Exactly. I can still see all the republicans rallying behind their hero, cheering him on and backing everything he wanted, and calling anyone who dared question any of his policies as cut and run, un-americans. Remember?
     
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    Bandit88 Old Enough to Know Better

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    I apologize. Obama isn't a Socialist. LINK.

    Mickey Kaus is a pretty strong Liberal, so he should know.

    If you're comfy with a Marxist in the Oval Office, then Obama's your comrade...

    :grin:
     
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    Bandit88 Old Enough to Know Better

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    Didn't say they were Democrats. I said they were imported Liberals.

    LINK.

    Money quote:
    I don't make this shiite up, Red. It is what it is.:)
     
  6. CParso

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    The reason we're the richest country in the world is because of our government's relatively low (compared to other countries) involvement in our citizen's abilities to make money. Affordable health care may impede that with higher taxes.

    It all depends on the reach of this so called "affordable health care". Free health care for everything & everyone = terrible. Affordable & accessible basic health care for everyone = good thing.

    And how can it be free or affordable without the government being involved?

    I feel like I bash Clinton a lot, but its really just because I think he's a bit overhyped - not because he wasn't a great president. Clinton benefited from the greatest economic revolution of our time - the internet.
     
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  8. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    from Wikipedia:

    "Media critic James Wolcott, in his book Attack Poodles and Other Media Mutants, uses Kaus as the archetypal example of a type of pundit he labels "counterintuitives". This type of pundit goes out of his way to stake out positions which run counter to conventional wisdom. Kaus has identified himself as neoliberal. Nevertheless, liberals like Paul Krugman and J. Bradford DeLong believe that Kaus is no longer a neoliberal but rather a neoconservative, which they indicate by calling him a Rhinoceros, from Eugene Ionesco's play of that name."
     
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    I don't make this shiite up, Red. It is what it is.:)[/quote]No names mentioned I note. How did this "morph" of anti-communist liberals into militaristic and imperialistic conservatives happen? Which neocon's switched allegiances and were "imported" into the republican party. I'm still waiting for that list.

    Nowhere in the article you cite is any neoconservative member of the Bush administration named as having once been liberals. Lifelong republicans are not liberal "imports".
     
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    Here is the neocon manifesto, over at Project for a New American Century:
    http://www.newamericancentury.org/statementofprinciples.htm

    Here are the signees:
    Bandit88, find me an "imported liberal"... The conservatives can't get the stink off them, so their propagandists want to recast their failure as coming from the "imported liberals". Pure bunk. Find me the imported liberal in their leadership list above.
     
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