Earth cools as fight about global warming heats up

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  1. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    And I would respond that just because you don't understand a thing doesn't mean that nobody does.
     
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    Sourdoughman TigerFan of LSU and the Tigerman

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    We are the same, everything that you have proved from your experts is political whether you know it or not.
    My opinion isn't any different than a bunch of scientists that are paid for a political hoax.
    If anyone on your side of this argument believed it they would live differently.
    You are just a puppet.
     
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    Sourdoughman TigerFan of LSU and the Tigerman

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  4. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    "When an experiment is conducted for the purpose of determining the effect of a single variable of interest on a particular system, a scientific control is used to minimize the unintended influence of other variables on the same system. Such extraneous variables include researcher bias, environmental changes, and biological variation. Scientific controls ensure that data are valid, and are a vital part of the scientific method."

    Scientific control - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    there is almost no system more complex and full of variables than the earth's climate. oh but uncle red knows everything! he can even insure there is no researcher bias! go ahead and start paying the carbon tax, red says none of the other factors are relevant, carbon is the issue RED KNOWS ALL!
     
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  5. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    They are made of ice. Ice melts. If the ice wasn't melting, it would be growing and liberals would be having a sh!t fit over global cooling. Nothing is static.
     
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  6. Bandit88

    Bandit88 Old Enough to Know Better

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    I predict that, just like the doomsday peak oil hysteria of the previous decades, and the near certainty that Iraq would end in total disaster, the absolute failure of this theory is less than a decade away but will arrive with a whimper and not a bang.

    The media doesn't like it when their team loses. Never have, never will.

    And all the "scientists" whose corrupt data and ideologically charged "research" will have amounted to nada will not be called on the carpet. They'll just be allowed to quietly go back to their work and they'll blame "the data" or "faulty models".

    The real blame is the ideological hijacking of the scientific method.

    Just an opinion.
     
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    Bandit88 Old Enough to Know Better

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    I'm not sure, but it's really amazing how much humans are making the Mars ice caps melt as well. Perhaps we can tax the Martians! That would fund a ton of social programs for the lazy and uneducated.

    Mars Melt Hints at Solar, Not Human, Cause for Warming, Scientist Says

    Oh, wait. Maybe the icecaps HAVE stopped melting! I bet you're excited and relieved!

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/...The-Global-Warming-Three-are-on-thin-ice.html
     
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  8. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Blather. You don't understand science at all.

    An preposterous accusation that you can't prove.

    You are really . . . confused. :huh:
     
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  9. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Once again you have proven nothing except how foolish you are.

    AL Gore is a private citizen who can invest in anything he wants to. According to your own source:

    So, this is not proof of anything you accuse. It is not proof that he is funding a "hoax". It is not proof that "I have debunked you and your so called experts many times", It is not proof that "the information put into those computers are inaccurate", It is not proof that "information is also put in by someone who isn't partial to the argument of man made global warming therefore it might as well have been ACORN! (whatever the hell that means).

    It is proof of nothing scientific whatsoever. It is proof of nothing illegal or immoral. It is only proof of Al Gore putting his money where his mouth is.
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Another argument from long ago that was already addressed at length. Short-answer: Given the absence of a duplicate planet and some large time machines, we can't test a 100-year temperature projection. Does that mean the models can't be validated without waiting 100 years? No. Does it mean that all of science cannot investigate and understand a phenomenon in the absence of a control group. Of course not. By your criteria most of human knowledge must be considered invalid, which is perfectly absurd. And you say that you are using common sense! :lol:

    Translation: I understand nothing about climate change so anyone who does must be mocked and jeered so that I don't feel so inadequate.
     
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