Drilling Moratorium

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  1. LSUGradin99

    LSUGradin99 I Bleedeth Purple 'N Gold

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    He raises a good question though.

    Are there other fisheries outside of the affected areas? If so, are they comparable to those the fisherman currently work in?
     
  2. Swerved

    Swerved It appears my hypocrisy knows no bounds.

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    The one fisherman I've talked to said his problem was this..

    He usually runs out of Bridgeside Marina in Grand Isle (charter fisherman). Obviously not much fishing going on out of there at present, so for him to be able to keep work, he would have to relocate basically west over to Calcasieu. Well, he could do that, but he's been fishing out of Grand Isle for so long, he doesn't know anything about where the good spots are, and what the fishing is like that far west. He'll have to learn the waters out there before he can really compete with the other fishermen in that area. Nobody wants to charter a boat with a captain who doesn't know the area.
     
  3. LSUsupaFan

    LSUsupaFan Founding Member

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    Yeah, and 3/4 of the planet is covered by water. They have fisheries in areas that are unaffected. Why should the roughnecks pack up and move and not the fisherman?
     
  4. LSUGradin99

    LSUGradin99 I Bleedeth Purple 'N Gold

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    I have heard similar things as well.


    Then there is a captain we went out with in May. He has been contemplating his future in the industry. He's been offshore charters for just over twenty years now. Before that he was an accountant and had a desk job. He made a lifestyle change and became a charter boat captain.

    Short of recreational fishing skills, he had no previous experience. Yet he was able to grow a customer base in an area where charter captains are abundant. Of course we are only talking charter captains. There are the shrimpers, oyster fishermen, etc. I don't know where the nearest comparable fisheries are for them.

    Many of us have had to travel to where the work is in our various industries. If not us, then we certainly know people who have had to do so. Although this is on a more drastic scale, it's similar to some extent.

    Unfortunately, many of these fishermen will likely need to move to where the work is. I know many can't imagine doing anything other than operating their fishing boats. Compensation checks may pay the bills but it doesn't maintain their way of life and the gratification that comes from being out on the water doing the work they enjoy.
     
  5. Frogleg

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    BP f-ed up. BP. BP made reckless decisions that resulted in the catastrophy.
    Obama reacted with another reckless decision that will result in another catastrophy.
    (Did anyone else think it was laughable when Obama called a meeting with Avatar director Cameron and others to find a solution to the blowout. That seemed juvenile)

    People in the industry have more than a clue on how to fix it, we know most of the reckless decisions that were made and the mechanical failures.

    the prevailing belief is that the casing floated up in the BOP stack, as a result of a horrible cement job (most of the cement was pumped away--into the formation, fault lines, etc...instead of behind the casing. This was known before the accident and there are remedies) and the displacment of seawater before setting the final plug.

    The displacment created a large bouyant force on the casing that bad well architecture and a non-existent cement job could not prevent from floating up the casing string.

    And obviously,the BOPs cannot close on pipe shrouded by casing, and Shear Rams are not designed to cut through casing and pipe.
     
  6. Nutriaitch

    Nutriaitch Fear the Buoy

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    BP f-ed up. why penalize every other company?




    average of $250,000 per rig per day (probably a conservative average)
    33 rigs

    $8.25 mil per day
    using your may 28th date
    that's $206.25 mil so far in lost revenue.

    $2oo+million is a LOT of money, no matter how big your industry.

    yo do NOT shut down an entire industry for one companies wrong doings.
     
  7. gumborue

    gumborue Throwin Ched

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    sure but did it not expose the likelihood that the other companies kinda flying blind?
     
  8. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    Because that is their home, they know those waters, they live off the land or in this case the water. It's like taking the Indians and making them move. There is an entire culture based off of the Gulf and seafood. And read what Swerved said, he explained it better.
     
  9. Frogleg

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    not at all.
    aside for this failure deepwater drilling has an outstanding track record.

    now,

    let's take a look back at BP's horrid track record, courtesy of ABC News:
    • Back in 2007, a BP pipeline spilled 200,000 gallons of crude into the Alaskan wilderness. They got hit with $16 million in fines.
    • "The Justice Department required the company to pay approximately $353 million as part of an agreement to defer prosecution on charges that the company conspired to manipulate the propane gas market."
    • In two separate disasters prior to Deepwater Horizon, 30 BP workers were killed and more than 200 have been seriously injured.
    • "According to the Center for Public Integrity, in the last three years, BP refineries in Ohio and Texas have accounted for 97 percent of the "egregious, willful" violations handed out by OSHA"
    • OSHA statistics show BP ran up 760 "egregious, willful" safety violations, while Sunoco and Conoco-Phillips each had eight, Citgo had two and Exxon had one comparable citation.
     
  10. Nutriaitch

    Nutriaitch Fear the Buoy

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    no more than that Toyota cruise control recall exposed the likelihood that Ford, Chevy, or Dodge cruise controls might fail.
     
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