Double-Murder and Abortion...

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  1. orlandotiger

    orlandotiger GEAUX TIGERS!

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    THAT IS IT!!! Thank you! I could remember the last name of the guy and it was killing me...it was the same as a guy that played for LSU and couldn't remember which dang one!

    Yes he was a piece of work! So whatever happened with that and how far along was she? If the stories I remember hearing are true then he is a piece of chit and should be charged with everything even if abortion is legal.
     
  2. CajunlostinCali

    CajunlostinCali Booger Eatin Moron

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    http://www.karisable.com/crmplacip.htm
     
  3. kedo15

    kedo15 Founding Member

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    it depends on what state you live in as toif you are charged with a double homicide.In some states the baby has to actually take a breath before it is considered a homicide.

    A criminal could challenge the law.....but good luck..
     
  4. orlandotiger

    orlandotiger GEAUX TIGERS!

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    OK couldnt read all chit as it is upsetting but what I read was that he was convicted for both of thier murders, hers 1st degree and the babys 2nd degree. I understand why the second degree charge but I like loco's question. Was it because she was 8 months pregenant and that became "out of the rights of abortion" or what?

    With loco I am curious about the answer.
     
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  5. TigerWins

    TigerWins Founding Member

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    The difference between abortion and fetal homicide is whether or not a criminal act killed the fetus. Abortion is legal, so there is no criminal act that killed the fetus. If someone kill or injures a mother which results in the fetus dying, it is fetal homicide due to the criminal act of killing/injuring the mother.

    Laws vary from state and some have fetus age restrictions. These laws have been challenged in the courts and all of them have been upheld, to my knowledge.
     
  6. orlandotiger

    orlandotiger GEAUX TIGERS!

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    Now that makes sense! See I knew somebody here was smarter then I!!! Thanks win!:grin:
     
  7. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Bingo.

    A fetus is still part of the mother's body. If the mother is murdered, the fetus was inherently a part of that crime. In an abortion, the mother is making a legal decision regarding her own body.
     
  8. CParso

    CParso Founding Member

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    Either way, the result is the same - the fetus is no longer. If a fetus is not a life, then it cannot be murder. If it is a life, then abortion cannot be legal.

    That's the issue that we're dealing with right now. We need a legal definition for life.
     
  9. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Abortion is certainly legal. What you are suggesting is that abortion cannot be moral. That is the crux of the issue--whether certain citizens have the right to use the government to force their moral principals upon other citizens in personal family matters.
     
  10. CParso

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    No, I'm saying that if the law were consistent & defined a fetus as a life, that abortion would not be legal.

    As it stands, a fetus is apparently only a life if the mother wants it to be.

    I think we'll see the law define life within the next several years.
     

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