Does the USC win yesterday dampen the Sugar bowl?

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  1. TexasTigers

    TexasTigers Are You With Me ?

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    I will add one more thing, you know how SI has the whole promption where you can buy the chamionship book, a little football and all the press the National Champs get (Syracuse and Ohio State last season)...

    What will they do this year ???
     
  2. burlesontiger

    burlesontiger Founding Member

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    Hmmm, interesting.....different commercials in different markets?
     
  3. Erin Krohl

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    The USC win does NOT dampen the Sugar Bowl nor dilute the NC! LSU needs to BLOW the Okies out of the Superdome! Remember how OK was the media darling ALL season ? Right now USC is the talk of a self promoting media outlet (owned by Disney) - many who have a very short memory. Sunday is the National Championship game - we play to our ability - no contest LSU National Champs! GEAUX Tigers!
     
  4. captainpodnuh

    captainpodnuh Baseball at da Box

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    All this USC National Champions of the human polls is all filler material until the big game on Sunday night. The talking heads have a little more to play with before the game.

    I can't help but think that ABC and ESPN mgmt will get back on the horse and push the BCS NC come Sunday. All the hoopla and graphics will say BCS NC game. The talking heads will talk about how USC shoulda been there, and then they will kickoff and nothing more will be said until the next day when the polls are out. Then there is more fodder for the talking heads to play with for another week or so...
     
  5. Golfdude

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    They will offer dual Championship packages. Just like they have done in all of the previous split years.
    One USC set.......one LSU set.
     
  6. SG_Geaux

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    Un fortunately, I can't shake the feeling now that no matter which team wins the sugar bowl, either LSU or OK will be tagged with "but you didn't beat the number one ranked team"
     
  7. Ralph_Wiggum

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    I used to live in Texas. They think the world revolves around them. One of the most over-rated states in the country. Don't get me wroing, it has some great places like Austin and Fort Worth, but the rest of the state isn't that great.

    Louisiana is known as one of the most interesting and colorful states in the country. It has a better image than Miss. Ark, Ala, SC, GA, Kentucky, Tenn, and most of the South up North.

    But, the Louisiana stereotype is just that. Hey the state that produced Britney Spears can't be all that bad.
     
  8. TSmith

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    Hell my house is older than the entire state of California. Louisiana is OLD. It's not supposed to be pretty. 1/3 of this country was once a part of Louisiana. People forget about all that.
     
  9. edyel

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    TexasTigers, I know what you feel about being proud of being from Louisiana and also of what it is like to work outside the state. When I first started at my work in Cincinnati,Ohio one of my co-workers,having never been south of the Ohio river made the mistake of saying,"Louisiana? Oh,a redneck huh? After 9 1/2 years here that was the first and last time he ever uttered the word. I knew I was facing predjudice and I worked harder to prove myself. It is sad so many of us have to leave the state to earn a living, but I am someday going to return,if only to be buried there. I LOVE Louisiana and nobody at my place of employment disrespects her while I am in earshot. This will be a great game tomorrow and as far as I am concerned USwho does not even exist. GEAUX TIGAHHHHHHHHSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  10. BufordDAWG

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    It's already happening.


    USC just made Sugar Bowl irrelevant
    Christine Brennan/USA Today
    Trojans render Sugar Bowl meaningless

    PASADENA, Calif. — After watching USC's impressive victory against Michigan in the Rose Bowl, I have only one question: Why are they even bothering with that other game Sunday night in New Orleans?
    It's over. The team ranked No. 1, decisively, in both the Associated Press and the USA TODAY/ESPN Coaches' Poll, won its high-profile bowl game, decisively, on New Year's Day.

    It sounds harsh to say this, but it's true: What happened here renders meaningless the result of the LSU-Oklahoma game.

    You'll hear a few BCS apologists in the media trying to beat the drum for the Sugar Bowl, but pay no attention to them. The Sugar Bowl isn't for the national championship. It was given to us, a booby prize if you will, by a bunch of computers, and it's now time for us humans to say what it really is:

    It's the Game for No. 2. It's nothing but window dressing now.

    (In the unlikely event either LSU or Oklahoma beats the other, say, 49-0, we could have another conversation on this topic. But even if that were to happen, if I were a voter who had gone with USC last month I would still vote for USC on Sunday night.)

    We have been hearing a lot about a BCS controversy over the past month, but, if you look at the polls, there is no controversy. The No. 1 team in the land — USC — has successfully completed its run to the mythical national title.

    The AP poll should confirm this, and the USA TODAY/ESPN poll should too, except that it's not a poll the way it's currently set up, it's an embarrassing coronation scheduled for Sunday night.

    In the meantime, I can't wait to hear the ninnies who run the BCS try to explain this one. Trust me, they still will try. They've been working on it ever since they handed us the sham of a so-called national championship game without the No. 1 team in the country.

    It's stunning, really, how the advertisements in the newspaper still try to snow you by saying that the Sugar Bowl is the game for the national title.

    "National Championship," read one ad in Wednesday's USA TODAY. "#1 Oklahoma vs. #2 LSU."

    They somehow left off the asterisk, failing to tell us that those are computer rankings, and that USC is really No. 1 and that the true game for the national championship occurred Thursday night in Pasadena. Do the BCS people really believe we, the American sports-following public, actually are that clueless? That they're really and truly fooling us? That we are believing their pronouncements from on high?

    These people must be descendants of the Emperor; you know the one, the guy with the new clothes.

    The Sugar Bowl's main credibility problem now is this: People watched the Rose Bowl. Millions of people did. And they saw a 28-14 game that easily could have been more lopsided.

    A strong Michigan defense that had given up just five touchdown passes all regular season gave up four to USC on Thursday.

    Michigan was tied for the Big Ten lead by giving up just 15 sacks all season; it suffered nine in this game. Whenever Michigan tried to get back into this game, USC rolled to another touchdown or forced a Michigan turnover or collapsed into the Michigan pocket. Need we say more?

    If we take it for granted the Associated Press poll will go for USC, then we are left with the USA TODAY/ESPN Coaches' Poll, which is looking more and more like it will be a farce. Although there have been weeks of discussion about this year's unique problem (leaving the No. 1 team out of the so-called big game), no one has done anything to change the way the coaches will vote come Sunday night.

    To recap: 37 coaches, a strong majority, voted for USC in the final regular-season poll. As things stand now, those 37 coaches have been told by their association that the winner of the LSU-Oklahoma game is their No. 1. USC is not supposed to get their vote.

    "It's a no-vote," Wyoming coach Joe Glenn told AP. "What are we doing here? It's a joke."

    "They (the coaches association) only allow you to vote for 2 through 25," said Jeff Tedford, who coaches Cal, the only team to beat USC this season. "It makes our poll insignificant (when it comes to) who we think the national champion is."

    USA TODAY and ESPN have placed their good names on this poll and should not stand for this, especially not after this game. (Memo to desk: Isn't it time to take our name off this silliness?) The people who run these two respected sports journalism organizations should refuse to publish or broadcast the poll results unless the coaches are free to vote for 1 to 25 not just 2 to 25. They should do this immediately, if not sooner.

    One would imagine that based on the way USC played, the vast majority of those 37 would stick with the Trojans, and perhaps others would join them, and USC would be No. 1 in that poll too.
     

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