Does anyone know exactly WHY Skip decided to bargain shop for a Head Coach?

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  1. clair

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    My order of preferences at the time was:

    1. Spurrier- (impossible)
    2. Butch Davis
    3. Miles

    So Miles was fairly high on the list.

    Let's let the season play out before we condemn him. Before the season, if someone said 10-2, a lot of us would have taken it ,so let's let the season play out.
     
  2. lsu-i-like

    lsu-i-like Playoff advocate

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    Sorry LVTGRFN, I can't give you rep points until I spread it around.

    I agree, there is more than half a season left. Let's see how it goes before we start totally ripping on Miles. Don't you remember how long the off-season was? All that agonizing waiting, I want to enjoy the season as much as possible. Beat the cats, :geauxtige !!!
     
  3. downtown

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    The question was why skip decided to put a salary cap on or bargain shop for Miles. I'm not sure, I'm just saying what I would have done. It doesn't mean I'm talking bad about Miles or anything.

    And I definitely would have checked out to see if Tressel was legit and everything. But at the time it looked like Ohio State would go on probation because of Maurice C. and the boosters, etc. There wasn't any evidence that Tressel had anything to do with Maurice C. getting gifts. I'm sure Tressel had to know that MC was a bit of a thug, but like any coach he probably tried to hold on to him as long as possible (DiNardo with Cecil, Saban with Tricky Ricky in the Pros). But none of that means the coach is the one doing anything to put the team on probation. To me, the whole administration has kind of got to be aware as much as possible. It's sometimes hard to find out what's going on.

    And for the guy who didn't think Tressel would come here...I disagree strongly. Would he come here without there being problems at Ohio State, I seriously doubt it. But when it looks like a ship is sinking, coaches jump off real quick if a good offer comes up. LSU is a great offer. Remember, we had recently won the National Championship, and JR got basically a year of work in playing QB. You couldn't ask for more given the talent level of LSU and the 1st class atmosphere of Tiger Stadium and the rest of the SEC.

    As for Miles, I was impressed by what he did at Ok.St...There were a few too many blowouts mixed in, but he didn't have the greatest talent to work with either. The fact that he spanked OU a few times was also impressive given the very few games Stoops was losing at the time. But when I heard him talk, I was scared, I can't lie. It's just natural. I'm trying to figure out how he got that program rolling like he did because it was a really good job. No doubt, he should have been one of the candidates. I just don't know how you could come away impressed by talking to him. But...I wasn't there in the room, so who knows. The bottom line is that as long as he wins, talking is secondary. W's are all that matter and so let's hope he can get a few big ones this year.
     
  4. lsu-i-like

    lsu-i-like Playoff advocate

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    At the time, Miles was a legit candidate and we were kind of picking through the sales bin near the end of the sale when all the really good stuff was taken. I hope that Bertman wasn't totally working on the cheap, but I think it is understandable that a pretty highly paid coach failing is better than a highly paid coach failing. When we got Saban he really blossomed at LSU - before that he was an unknown commodity. At the time, everybody was commenting what a Saban-like hire this was.

    I would say that Ohio St is probably a sweeter job than LSU in the eyes of the college football nation. Not by much, mind you, but Ohio St is more a part of the college football mainstream than LSU. Don't think Tressell would leave Ohio St for LSU unless he was seriously unhappy. Nothing about his demeanor makes me think he would leave the Buckeyes. We missed out on Spurrier for the second time because of poor timing (though the guy can come off as a true jerk sometimes), which may or may not be a good thing. Meyer had been snatched up quick by Florida. I've heard we screwed up with Del Rio, though he may not have been a realistic hire. Being in Bertman's shoes would have probably been a little tough at that time.

    Miles is our guy now, and he might achieve great things at LSU. I'm back to feeling punchless against real competition like I did last year. But then we came out and gave Miami a whammy. If the team rallys around this loss (since it is the first loss where the blame falls directly on the team's shoulders) I'm hoping for a more focused, dominant program. We are the tigers and want to dominate and intimidate our opponent. The only team we've played that might not respect us is Florida. I want everyone else after they play us to say, win or loss, by damn LSU is a beast.
     
  5. NoLimitMD

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    That's the only thing for which I begrudge Saban. Not getting his arse in gear early enough for us to get Spurrier.

    That's not entirely true. Saban had NFL coaching experience, and Michigan State was competetive -- and not just against one team (see: OU.) As I recall, he was also pretty highly regarded in football circles (meaning, those whose job it is to staff coaching positions -- college or pro.)

    Exactly, and that's a bad feeling. Beating crash test dummy schools is nothing. The real enjoyment from being a fan/alum of a top program is beating ANOTHER TOP PROGRAM. Reminds me of a decade called the '90s. And the Miami win is looking less impressive by the day.
     
  6. locoguano

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    I think when it comes down to it, Skip was wrong in making the statement that he would not pay "nick saban" money... A program that makes as much money as LSU should never limit itself in a coach hunt... Sure, very few people out there deserve that kind of cash, but you never know who might for some odd reason be interested...

    And a little side note... Alot of big time coaches got big time raises during LSUs coach hunt... some of them close to "nick saban" money...
     
  7. max

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    Les offered to buy Skip's Football Camp for $100,000.
     
  8. Dutchtown tiger

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    Del Rio wanted the job and if we would offered the right money he would of came. Probably would still look at LSU if something happens in the next few years. Again, show coaches the money they will come. Skip should of never put a cap on the package. LSU gets what it deserves.
     
  9. Deceks7

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    First, I doubt that any coach would have could given you a better season last year. Second, the candidate pool wasn't that great, and no one would have considered a successful coordinator. Now for the gas on the fire; today, who would you rather see as the head coach, Miles or Pellini.

    This would have been a very interesting combo. Happy I don't have to face it as a reality.

    A person worth that type of money would have paid no attention to that statement. They (and especially their agents) know what LSU could pay, and the splash would be bigger when they were announced. Del Rio wouldn't have listened to Miles money.


    Del Rio sounds great, but.... Every Coach has up and downs seasons. Plus he is getting NFL money, the chances of getting someone the NFL really wants is slim. Petey wasn't a hot commodity until he went to USC (and if the NCAA looks too close they might find why he is so hot at usc), and you can find a number of mediocre NFL coaches who haven't set the NCAA on its collective heels, AL Groh and Dave Wannstedt anyone?

    http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/JAC/6707084
    The Jaguars punter needed surgery to close up a gash on his right, non-kicking, leg after he miscalibrated while using an ax to hack at the massive tree stump that coach Jack Del Rio placed in the locker room a few weeks ago. Del Rio used the stump as a symbol for the mantra he has adopted for the Jaguars (1-4) this season: "Keep chopping wood."
     
  10. red55

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    Look, if Nick had resigned at the end of the season, LSU would have had a shot a lot more coaches, but instead he resigned at New Years eve. By then Spurrier already had a job, Meyer already had a job, all the coaches who were out looking had already found themselves a job. Other top coaches already had safe jobs at high pay at their current schools and were not going anywhere.

    LSU had to find the best possible candidate who was successful at his school, but looking to move to the top tier. Petrino was interested but apparently blew his interview by making unreasonable demands. Miles was the best coach available. He had a resume very similar to Nick. A winning record for five years in the upper tier of a BCS converence, NFL assistant experience, and overshadowed by a bigger state school.

    Two million has to be earned. You can't just pour money on a new guy and espect that alone will make him great. He has to come here and earn it like Nick did.
     

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