Do you treat atheist like second class citizens?

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  1. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    What nonsense! Any scientific anaylsis whose basic thesis is "What are the chances?" is laughable.
     
  2. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Denton is not a biblical creationist, you know, he's arguing for an alternate evolution. Denton has been thoroughly challenged and his odd notions have in no fashion made evolution into a nightmare. This is one of the best ones online:


    Ahh, Morowitz. Another scientists who is not a creationist nor promoting intelligent design. Like Denton, he points out some puzzles as yet unsolved in biology and creationists have latched onto it as somehow invalidating the overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

     
  3. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    again, this is another way of saying that you are a coward and you dont want your own beliefs trampled on because they are indefensible, so you dont bother anyone else.

    religions are all stupid, atheism is the only rational position and if you are not atheist you are being an idiot. that isnt arrogance, it isnt rude or wrong, it is just truth. if any of you had any stones you would agree with me.

    i know for sure everyone has "arrogance of thought" regarding anything else that is made up and wrong. stop acting like "faith" is magical and gets a free pass.
     
  4. Bud Lee

    Bud Lee Call me buttercup

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    One again, it is not cowardly to respect someones opinion. The tactic of calling ones beliefs "stupid" and the believer an "idiot" to me is nothing more then a bully tactic to shame the person in to agreeing to your argument.

    You cannot prove by math that there is not a god, I can not prove by math that there is a god. Therefore his/hers existence is plausible.
     
  5. Cajun Sensation

    Cajun Sensation I'm kind of a big deal Staff Member

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    I am a Christian. I am thankful to God for making me strikingly handsome, blessing me with athleticism, skill and a great body and for making me extremely smart. Rarely do you find someone with such a combination. Thank you, Lord.

    I am especially thankful for the unbelievably smoking hot woman in my life (and I'm quite sure she is just as thankful for landing such a "catch" even though I am 9 years her elder) and for blessing me with 2 smart and beautiful kids (one beautiful little girl and one amazing lil fella who seems to be just as blessed as me).

    Who else is there to thank for such things?

    Thank you, Lord Jesus.
     
  6. TUSKtimes

    TUSKtimes Riding the Wave

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    I have no vested interest in conforming to the conclusion of evolutionist anymore then the conclusion of whoever you're referring to as the faithful. Most of the time it's two extreme and dogmatic entities, asking the masses to pick a side. It seems both sides charge plenty these days for either point of view.

    Scientific achievement is not at issue here. The more you examine molecular biology, listen to these amazing discriptions of a complex living cell, the more an intelligent person should appreciate the incredible design of all life. Whatever that implies is for people to determine.

    No one can read the astronomical figures these scientist are publishing and not see the commonality running through all this math. Their numbers are painting one singular picture. There is NO "simple cell." No amount of verbal hocus pocus, will ever change that in the evolutionary world.
     
  7. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    let me ask you something. lets say we are farmers, you and i, and another guy. and we are having a terrible drought. we have a meeting to discuss what to do. i want to arrange an irrigation system. the other guy wants to go outside and do a rain dance. we both hate him and call him an idiot, right? but you decide to pray to god for help. how are you any different than the rain-dance guy? why shouldnt you be mocked for being a child? why shouldnt you be mocked for believing foolish things like a retard?

    again, it amazes me how poor the vast majority of people are at simple logic. you cannot prove that i am not god. you cant prove the red is not god. that doesnt mean anything! stop fooling yourself with stupid logic in order to cling to your superstitions.
     
  8. Bud Lee

    Bud Lee Call me buttercup

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    First, I do not believe God interferes with my daily life, so I wouldn't pray to him to make it ran.

    Secondly, if you cannot prove that something does not exist, how can you say it does not. I can prove you and red are not a god by putting a bullet in your skull (not a threat, just saying). However, you cannot prove that there is no supreme being using math or science. You can make a logical assumption using your personal observations, knowledge, and say God does not exist. Just as I can do the same and say he does.

    In addition, before you move on to say how I cannot prove Santa is not real...that is a fairytale, one that has never been held as true. Christianity has been around for 2000+ years and has been held as true through the ages. Therefore, it is apple and oranges comparison.

    Call my logic stupid, my belief superstitions. Doesn’t matter. I'm free to believe what I want. Just as you're. The difference is I can respect your beliefs...does that make me smarter, no. Does it make me less of an a**hole...yes.
     
  9. martin

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    well you should also note that prayer is futile since you dont actually have the ability to astral-project your thoughts.



    you mean like the way they proved jesus was not lord by nailing him to a cross and watching him die?

    again, you are being very stupid and have no understanding of logic. i dont mean to be be harsh, but really, you just are not thinking at all. you cant claim that because i cannot prove something does not exist that it a valid position to believe that it does. you need evidence.

    you certainly cannot prove he isnt real.

    who cares? if i thought he was true would that matter?

    history is littered with virtually infinite religions that were believed by thousands and thousands and thousand, many of which lasted thousands of years. is islam true? lots of people believe it, right? and they have for thousands of years. buddhiusm, zoroastrianism?

    i believe harry potter is a true story, why am i wrong? logic? shut up, i have faith.

    done and done.

    the reason you respect my beliefs is tha we ave created a BS culture where religious views are free from real examination, because we are all so terrified of having our own beliefs questioned. we hate to be challenged when we know deep down that we are wrong.

    it makes you a coward. perhaps you and cajun sensation should meet up and kiss pickles.
     
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  10. Bud Lee

    Bud Lee Call me buttercup

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    He was only half-divine. Hence his death.

    HHAHAHHAHAHAHA....My LSAT score says I have a very good understanding of logic.

    Sure I can [ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Claus[/ame]

    And you don't....no...I think you do.

    And there you again...you cannot when this argument, because you have no proof that god does not exist. Therefore, you move to insults in a hope that I will put my tail between my legs a go away.

    Since you seem determined to sink to a level that I consider below me, I will go back to answering your post with colors.

    I will start with...Baby Blue
     

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