Do you treat atheist like second class citizens?

Those mathematicians are letting their personal beliefs get in the way of facts and science.

 

A typical protein has about one hundred amino acids and contains many thousands of atoms. In it's life processes a living cell uses some 200,000 proteins. Two thousand of them are enzymes, special proteins without which the cell cannot survive. What are tha chances of these enzymes forming at random in a soup - if you had a soup? One chance in 10 to the 40,000. That is 1 followed by 40,000 zeros, try that on your calculator. Written out in full, it would fill 14 pages on a magazine size piece of paper. Or, stated differently, the chance is the same as rolling dice and getting 50,000 sixes in a row. And that is for only 2000 of the 200,000 needed for A living cell. So to get them all, roll 5,000,000 more sixes in a row.

You going to Las Vegas with those odds?

 

yes, i told you, the influence of religion is pervasive. it ruins even otherwise rational mathematicians.

 

this is sort of thing you say when you have an incredibly limited knowledge of how evolution works.

 

I thought Math was the universal language of truth?

 

yes, that is what i just said, please try to pay attention. evolution is about dna and dna is math.

 

The evolutionists dream was discovery of a supersimple first living cell. Molecular biology has turned their dream into a nightmare. Michael Denton, specialist in molecular biology, sounded it's death knell:

"Molecular biology has shown that even the simplest of all living systems on earth today, bacterial cells, are exceedingly complex objects. Although the tiniest bacterial cells are incredible small, weighing less than 10-12gms, each is in effect a veritable micro-miniaturized factory containing thousands of exquisitely designed pieces of intricate molecular machinery, made up altogether of one hundred thousand million atoms, far more complicated than any machine built by man and absolutely without parallel in the nonliving world."


Harold Morowitz, a Yale university physicist has calculated that the chances of getting the simplest living bacterium by random changes is 1 in 1 followed by 100,000,000,000 zeros. "This number is so large," he said, "that to write it in conventional form we would require several hundred thousand blank books." He charges that scientists committed to chemical evolution of life ignore the increasing evidence and "have chosen to hold it as truth beyond question, thereby enshrining it as mythology."

 

As I've said before, being religious or not being religious is not what's bad. It's arrogance of thought. It's the idea that people who don't see things as you do are idiots or less. Because it's a short walk from there to 'It's my duty to help these people out'. And I've known passionate Atheists who've gone far enough down that path that they have more in common with passionate Christians or passionate Muslims than 'regular' people.

I don’t evaluate people by what their expressed beliefs, I evaluate what they do and say. To me, anyone who regularly condemns the vast majority of society to moronic-ville for believing in God is guilty of the same offense as those who regularly condemn unbelievers to hell for their lack of belief. And usually both have overdeveloped speaking skills and underdeveloped listening skills. And there are those on both sides who try a little too hard. People who try too hard to push their beliefs remind me of those who ‘protest too much’. Both are overstating their confidence.

 

It is so complicated that it "HAS" to be God, huh? That argument is beyond weak. Throughout history that has been shot down time and time again. Primitive people always labeled things they didn't understand as "God" (fire, trees, the stars, the sky). Scientists explained it and it suddenly wasn't God. Oh, then the next thing they didn't understand was labeled as being made by God. Then the scientists proved that wasn't God. On and on it goes and the scientists keep on winning every single time.

Just because we can't explain it now, doesn't mean it can't be explained by science. You need to take that on faith. Religious folks claim to be good at that... I will put my faith in something that has been correct over and over and over again. Something that is agreed on by everyone around the world. Not something that changes every few years and everyone around the world has their own version of.