Do you treat atheist like second class citizens?

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  1. kluke

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    islstl Playoff committee is a group of great football men Staff Member

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    What the phuck is a christen?
     
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  3. Bud Lee

    Bud Lee Call me buttercup

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    I did :bncry: and he knows it :cry:
     
  4. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    you guys know more about football than i do, so i read. pretty sure that is allowed.



    i dont ridicule them for being critical of other religions, i ridicule them for being wrong.

    for example when that christian guy wanted to burn korans, i was on his side. he is right to hate islam. he would also be right to hate any other religion. i just hate one more religion than he does.


     
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  5. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Did you see the :wink:? I was just teasing you for bragging about your LSAT score.

    That's fine. I criticize martin for this and I think it makes it harder for him to make otherwise perfectly valid points. People hear the insults and ignore whatever else he has to say.

    My response was to another poster telling martin that nobody likes him. I dislike other people speaking for me, especially when they misrepresent.
     
  6. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    red has a perfectly valid criticism, which is why i posted that youtube clip of niel degrasse tyson calling out richard dawkins.

    if i taught a remedial class, i wouldnt preface everything with "you guys are morons". i would try to teach and have bring info to people without mocking them. but yunno, i have little patience. and like i said, i think it is absurd when we can be destructively critical of anything that is wrong unless that thing is faith-based.

    again, we mock the ancient religions, but not the modern ones. it doesnt make sense to me that we cant make the connection that they are all the same. i made this connection when i was like 12 years old. you guys should hurry it up. whatever faith you have is no different than faith in rain dances or any other sham.

    and i think it is justified for me to take a hard stance on it because of how destructive the influence of religion is.
     
  7. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    You're the one with that data? Or did you get it from a source? And do you understand what you've read?

    Have I not? Look, the whole idea of this huge number is an attempt on your part to suggest that it impossible for the first cell to be created without divine intervention. But it doesn't do so. The improbable is not the impossible. Highly improbable events happen all of the time, especially on a cosmological scale. Nothing in this huge number (which has been attacked, by the way) has been suggested by this author that any kind of intelligent design is at play.

    I posted a quote and a link to a paper debunking those numbers. If you do not bother to read the rebuttles, then I will not bother to respond any further.
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Yeah, I miss the multiquote button. I screw up copy and paste a lot.
     
  9. MLUTiger

    MLUTiger Secular Humanist

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    Yes, you hurt my feelings. I post this reply from an e-fetal position. :rolleye33:

    Well, no. No, I can't. That's kinda the point I was making. Notice how in this reply that I don't attempt to explain it with my own rationalizations or the standard "catch all" of a man in the sky wielding unlimited power and omnipotence to explain the unexplainable.
     
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    TUSKtimes Riding the Wave

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    LOL, What part of evolution did you invent? I'm thinking you had many a "source." I don't question your sincerity red, just your conclusion.

    Religion didn't destroy the concept of the "simple cell," science did. Religion has been way too busy "redefining" their own deity.
     

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