difference between conservatives and democrats

Irrespective of party affiliation, the government has shown to care very little for how much tax revenue it takes in with respect to how it affects spending. This isn't a problem with the government taking in too little. It's a problem with government not knowing the meaning of the term fiscal discipline.

If we were running smaller yearly deficits I might agree. But a trillion dollars per fiscal year? That's not a revenue problem.

Eliminating The Bush tax cuts, according to this source:

http://costoftaxcuts.com/about/

...would've allowed the government to pay for this year's deficit with 10 years of revenue.

 

The bandwidth allowed for Tigerfan probably prohibits me from listing them all……but off the top of my head.

Medicaid

Programs for Women, Disabled (which it doesn’t take much to be labeled disabled) and minorites:

Business Grants, College Grants, Federal Grants, Grants for writing Grants, Housing Grants, Personal Grants, Small Business Grants. Indian Children Grants.

Community Food and Nutrition Programs (another form of Food Stamps), Food Stamp Programs, Head Start/Early Head Start Programs, Commodity Supplemental Food Program, Emergency Food Assistance Program, Special Milk Program, Summer food Service Program, Homeless Per Diem Program, Mortgage Assistance Program for the poor……….

One question:

1. Are these programs paid for with Tax money? Please check Yes or No

 

One, I had already presented the evidence in the form of CBO effective tax rate tables. You obviously didn't review it, or you would not have asked the question. Two, I really could not have answered the question. It was complete nonsense. It was like you had asked me how the sky was blue when the moon is not made of green cheese.

Bro, I made my assertions, and offered the names of the works I used as my basis. You asked questions that were not based in actual history, but on popular legends. You were getting basic facts wrong. I reccomended you read some of the works. You were arguing and making claims with a faulty premise. You got mad when I told you that.

I'm sorry. I don't see that as underhanded.

No you never do that.

Glass houses, stones, etc.

 

No he is saying the "lost revenue" from 10 years of the Bush tax cuts combined would have paid for this current years budget deficit. And that is holding all things equal and assuming economic growth, employment, etc had been the same in spite of the higher rates.

 

Private and corporate money is wiser spent by private and corporate interests than governmental agencies. I'd be much more careful and efficient with spending my own money than with spending someone else's. We pay plenty enough taxes as it is to support parks, highways, the military, and the highest standard of living.

I don't think you understood my point. The Bush tax cuts cost us in 10 years what government spending cost us in 1. We don't need more taxes when government can't seem to go a year without going $900 billion in the red.

It's like what I said earlier. It's not like the government is slightly overshooting its revenue, as if it's trying to work within its income. It consistently blasts past its income. Blows it out of the water. This is not the kind of entity that I think ought to be granted more money.

 

I'll be happy to answer your question, the way I understand it we pay taxes and it goes into a big ole fund.....which is then distributed to sources we both listed, alot of which is given to people who pay very little or no tax because they have no income, all they do is consume tax money. With this I disagree that "everybody pays" however we all consume. My problem is I think there are too many Gov't handout programs that are far to easily accessed by people who spend more effort manipulating the system to gain access to these funds, where they could easily exert their efforts to getting a job or contributing to our country. Furthermore, I will try and do my part to vote out this current administration that appears to be fueling this mentality of "let your Gov't take care of you" when I feel it's the wealthy/hard working who's providing most of the resources for this to happen. I just don't know who I will be supporting, noone impresses me......but anyone would be better than the current.

Now, once again, I've answered your question. The programs I listed in my prior post are these funded with Tax Money? It's simple, check yes or no please.