Demos to railroad health care bill through Congress

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  1. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Of course it does. The Constitution gives the Congress the right to enact laws. Show me what clause in the Constitution prohibits Congress from doing this?
     
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    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    David B. Rivkin Jr. and Lee A. Casey: Mandatory Insurance Is Unconstitutional - WSJ.com
     
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  3. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    Here you go, thats enough signatures:hihi:
     
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    Proof that one man can make a difference. If only I was as passionate about healthcare as I am about Halle Berry.:rofl:
     
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  5. LSUsupaFan

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    Sure some things were taken out, not to overcome Republican objections, but to overcome the objections of the slightly more sane blue dog democrats. What was left out of the bill was still enough to not garner Republican support. No hard languae prohibiting abortions, no increase to RAC funding, no creation of a body similar to the RAC for medicaid, no exchanges across state lines, no tort reform. All cheap and cost driven soloutions... all ignored by Democrats.

    It isn't often that I agree with Republicans, but they are right on this one. Nothing is better than crap.


    Center of the left end is not center of mainstream America. I don't care what the make up of the Republican party is. I just care that they oppose the stupidity of the Democratic party on this issue.


    The Democratic party is not moderate or even centrist in nature. The reason Democrats are labled as far left liberals is because, by and large they are. Fifty-two blue dogs and 200 some odd liberals does not really make for a middle of the road party.

    Being in an independent party does not make you modertate. You could be in the Green party, or the Socialist party and still claim to be a registered independent. You'd be technically correct. Which is the best kind of correct.

    I am registerred with no party affiliation, because there are some things that form the far right that I like and there are some things from the far left that I like. I am a moderate by average.
     
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  6. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    I'm sorry, when did the Federalist Papers become part of the Constitution? They are essays about the constitution, but they are opinions that were written (including Hamilton) anonymously. The Constitution says:
     
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    You're a moderate liberal. Just accept it. Yeah, you aren't a complete left wing nutjob, but you certainly aren't in the middle, either.

    Once you're willing to admit it no one will have to question it anymore.

    As far as changing the subject - I wasn't even giving any opinion on the subject nor was I planning on it.
     
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  8. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Ohhh . . . I see your objection now. I should have suspected. Well, abortion is not illegal and the heath bill was never about trying to address the contentious abortion issue. It's a straw man.

    I can see that from your perspective out there in right field that you cannot discern moderates from liberals, You just know that they are to the left of you.

    [​IMG]

    Of course not, but with the lack of a moderate party to cater to the largest ideological group in America, moderates are forces to choose one party or another when they vote. And they swing back and forth slowly to the party that embraces the more moderate policies. The moderates are walking with the democrats right now for that reason. It's just a fact.

    You are misinformed. You can declare a party or you can declare yourself independent when you register. People who declare Socialist or Green or Libertarian parties are NOT independents. Certainly there are independents who are right wing or left-wing and just dislike the parties, but most of the independents are moderates . . . as well as a very large percentage of democrats . . . which is why I'm explaining that the moderates think the democrats offer them more than the GOP.

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    Well, me too. So why do you find it necessary to try to tell me that I'm not a moderate when I do the same damn thing? There are issues that I stand on the right side of center, too.
     
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  9. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    That's half right. You're becoming more perceptive.
     
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  10. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    They're called "interpretations".


    The Constitution also spells out specific enumerated powers which limit what the Feds can do. If it ain't spelled out, it ain't constitutional.

    Again, your interpretation is way to the left.
     
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