Democrats Vying for Presidential Nomination

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  1. Jmg

    Jmg Veteran Member

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    farmers can fuck off anyways. they get billions in federal aid to grow unhealthy shit
     
  2. Jmg

    Jmg Veteran Member

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    exaxctly farmers are in fact stupid. pre programming the path of the combine on their ipads. its the guy that programmed the ipad that did the work
     
  3. Frogleg

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    it's more accurate to say that farmers (pre-industrial revolution families running family farms, surviving relatively independent of the state) required a different skill and intelligence set, and knowledge base. I'm not sure the average farmer of 500 or 1000 yrs ago was 'dumber' or 'smarter' than the average modern person working in an 'information' age type job. They certainly have a far different education and knowledge base. That's what Bloomturd should have pointed out.

    It's pretty hotly debated whether humans are getting dumber or smarter. There's a compelling case that human's intelligence peaked between 2 and 5 thousand years ago. There were more consequences thousands of years ago for being a dumb ass. Today dumb asses survive and multiply as much as others.

    ....reminds me of a quote by J.G. Farrell
    “We look on past ages with condescension, as a mere preparation for us....but what if we are a mere after-glow of them?”
     
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  4. kcal

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    here is more context from factcheck.org:


    Bloomberg, Nov. 17, 2016: If you think about it, the agrarian society lasted 3,000 years, and we can teach processes. I can teach anybody – even people in this room, so no offense intended – to be a farmer. It’s a process. You dig a hole, you put a seed in, you put dirt on top, you add water, up comes corn. You can learn that. Then you had 300 years of the industrial society. You put the piece of metal on the lathe, you turn the crank in direction of arrow and you can have a job. And we created a lot of jobs. At one point, 98% of the world worked in agriculture. Today it’s 2% of the United States.

    Now comes the information economy and the information economy is fundamentally different because it’s built around replacing people with technology, and the skill sets that you have to learn are how to think and analyze. And that is a whole degree level different. You have to have a different skill set. You have to have a lot more gray matter. It’s not clear the teachers can teach or the students can learn. And so the challenge of society is to find jobs for these people. …


    so it does refer to the historical context but he implies that those who are/formerly working in agriculture may not have the necessary smarts to compete..... appears to me to be the usual leftist elitist mindset
     
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  5. Jmg

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    imagine a person who is brutally stupid. they can push a plow. they can pick an apple. can they program the interface on your laptop?

    it should be uncontroversially true that he is correct. humans of the past did not live in an economy that rewarded the same skillset as today. in the past a dummy could get a job as a farm worker or laborer. those jobs are increasingly less available.

    do you think mexican farmworkers that currently pick strawberries can be transitioned to work for your new app that does stock trades on your phone? i dunno.

    dont need to recast everything a politican says as elitist vs heartland. can simply just be correct
     
  6. Jmg

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    i am, because most everyone was a farmer. todays information tech jobs are not held by everyone, but smarter people.

    in the past the average farmer was roughtly average IQ, because everyone was a farmer. today the average educated person working in IT is smarter than average.
     
  7. Frogleg

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    can they repair a plow? make a plow? make apple preserves? irrigate crops? deal with all the pest, and thieves trying to destroy their stuff? provision for the winter? etc...i don't think it's as black and white as you make it out to be.
     
  8. LSUpride123

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    It’s two folds. You need the common sense smarts to survive, but the IQ to innovate.

    Its only going to get worse.

    I feel bad for inbreeding countries.
     
  9. Jmg

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    sure, i guess a farm needs one guy to run it and a bunch of laborers. or put another way, one guy to to mental work and a hundred to do the labor. see how thats nt the case anymore? that the point.
     
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    And 1 translator.
     
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