That is a smokescreen, LC. I feel the same way as you about those soldiers, who are doing a fine job under difficult circumstances, but I can still believe the President isn't doing his job very well and is responsible for those difficult circumstances. US citizens can disagree with the US politicians that they elect and that has nothing to do with not supporting the troops. It is the misuse and squandering of those troops that is of concern. It is not the military but the failed geo-political policies of the President that are being criticised. And we didn't invade and occupy Iraq for "the freedom of another country", did you forget? They were a dangerous enemy with WMDs that had to be defeated! The troops won the war in 21 days and did their jobs splendidly. Saddam is captured. It is the failed post-war occupation policy of the president that is responsible for keeping them there babysitting a civil war, taking 20,853 casualties, and costing us $ 2 billion a day. The military is performing just fine and deserves to be utilized more effectively than that.
Criticize the president all you want. March up and down Broadway with Bush is Hitler signs. I'm talking about Murtha calling our soldiers cold blooded killers, Kerry saying that we should bring the troops home now....on a deadline crap. You can't see how that relates to more violence in Iraq? How the same hippie crap in Nam caused us to cut and run....literally? If we are united in the war, you can't see how that is demoralizing to the enemy? And we've gone over this and over this.....talking about a "failed post-war occupation policy" is fruitless. We can banter back and forth about Bush's successful post-war reconstruction and security policy all day long. The point of this was, do you not understand how the calling for troop withdrawal, calling our troops cold-blooded murders by US Congressmen and anti-war protests only result in more deaths? It emboldens the enemy, giving them light at the end of the tunnel.
Dissent is great when talking about tax policy. Calling our troops cold blooded murderers and calling for their immediate withdrawal only gets more of them killed. If you can't see the difference then that's part of the problem.
Smart man. I like this one "If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. ... And what country can preserve its liberties, if it's rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance" Thomas Jefferson -1787. edit: This is another good one "The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions, that I wish it to be always kept alive. It will often be exercised when wrong but better so than not to be exercised at all. I like a little rebellion now and then. It is like a storm in the atmosphere." Thomas Jefferson -1787.
No, there is no cause and effect that can be proved. We suffer more deaths because we are there. And Murtha didn't invent Haditha, he was informed by the Commandant of the Marine Corps. Bad news does not get better with time, it had been covered up long enough and it was not classified information--the Pentagon wanted the word out. Tunnelvision is the problem with your position.
Hogwash. It shows up in Al Qaida's documents all the time. Most have been shown by the administration or ABC News. They show that Al Qaida knows how to maipulate our media and their goal is increased violence to get us to withdraw. EX-generals in Vietnam wrote books on these very tactics to get us to withdraw. And once again, the American LEFT falls right into their old-hippie playbook. Lack of vision is the problem with your position.
I expect the media to jump all over a story like this without knowing all the facts, but one would think a Congressman would use more caution and wait until the military completes its investigation and file charges against someone. Just because he is briefed doesn't mean he should act like the judge and jury in this case. Murtha couldn't wait to find a microphone and exploit this situation for political gain. Innocent until proven guilty applies to the military as well.
:rofl: :rofl: :lol: :yelwink2: At least CParso got it if you and Supafan didn't. I'm definitely not trying to take up for Ann Coulter, CParso understood where I was coming from here... The left are the one's that parade the "victims" on tv. The right does have their problems but they don't take advantage of victims life the left likes to do. I know and agree that bad politics are on both sides, I think the left is awfully sleezy these days since they claim Bush stole 2 elections. Not bad for a Dumb idiot from Texas, as the left claims. I don't have a problem with people on either side speaking their mind about politics or war, please point out where I've said anything else. I simply pointed out that the left can't and shouldn't have it both ways. Example: Bush's War, Vietnam, body count, etc. The thing is the enemy can watch and listen to American programs, I think the Democrats should also get credit when we talk about body counts. I know its all Bush's and Republicans fault and the Democrats had nothing to do with it, is that what you are trying to say? Like I said, the next body count that comes along, the Democrats should share for botching things up by their politians being irresponsible for parading on every tv and radio network out there, at least don't do this crap on tv where its carried world wide. Are you really so naive that you don't think the enemy sees and hears what Kennedy and Dick Durbin have said and others such as above, comparing Bush to Hitler, Butcher of Baghdad? I still think this is worse than what Ann Coulter has said but no one cares. Supafan, http://movies.about.com/od/assassinationofrichardnixon/a/nixonnm122904.htm
Terry Schiavo??? Don't follow this. I think its a game and the right has suckered the sheep into believing its bhaaaaaad to disagree. So some nut wanted to kill Nixon and its the Democrats fault, got it. Is it the Republicans fault Timothy Mcveigh blew up to OFB?
