i see. the big bang caused itself. so i guess the big bang is itself the creator. if you say so. ithought before that we decided that creation required a creator. presumably this phenomenon is not part of the creation that requires a creator. duly noted. right. the creator is not necessarily a deity, but is not a part of creation and does not itself require a creator. got it. i dunno how you know all this, but ok.
For all but the beginning of existence. You need a consciousness to bring something from nothing. You need consciousness to start the clock.
All that I really know is what I have been taught and what I believe to matter. The complexities of creation and being I will continue to leave to the great philosophers and scientists who have yet to figure it out. To me, what matters is my family, love, health, and my faith.
LMAO. You guys are killing me. As for "All you really know is what you've been taught and what you believe to matter" just remember..........Charlie Brown still thinks Lucy is gonna hold that football as he speeds towards it. Just because you believe it, don't make it so.
So, your contention is that what I believe to be the measurement of my self being, mental, physical, and spiritual happiness, that I place a premium on the love of my family and frienship and that my faith in the lord to help guide me thru the turmoils of my life are debatable. Really? I'd like to see you try.
another original pot joke, nice. speaking of fatties and bang, you should try a fatty sometime, might make the chick in your sig pic more bangable.
oh is that how it works? and this is the case because? i really must not have paid attention in school. i dont remember the part where they taught us the exact policies on universe creation, whether a consciousness was required. but just so i am clear: a consciousness is required to create a universe that conscious being does not itself require a creator is this correct, this is what the research has indicated?