Deep State

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  1. Winston1

    Winston1 Veteran Member

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    I don’t know why I answer someone so deliberately blind but here goes.
    1) Emoluments clause
    2) Emergency powers act when raising tariffs
    3) Several other Executative orders that have been ruled unconstitutional
    While the list is longer you really don’t care that he is destroying our system because you think he’s “shaking things up” and attacking the “deep state”. No he’s selfish incompetent and cares nothing for this country. He’s a con man squeezing everything he can and will leave us a dried husk.
     
  2. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 Boobies make everything A OK!!!

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    Can you give examples? I mean, you say several??



    The president 100% has authority to impose tariffs.

    Further, it is silly to cite anything to goes to the Supreme Court. It’s why we have a 3 tiered system.

    If said claim goes to the SC and passes well, it’s not an abuse of power is it. If it goes to the SC and loses, aka, working as intended.

    So again, what has been abused and destroyed?
     
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  3. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village Staff Member

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    1. Nice try, you have nothing here

    2. As has been pointed out, not illegal for him to impose tariffs. It is inherent upon him to NOT allow China to take advantage of us they way so many before him have. Good God take a midol to relieve the vaginal discomfort. He is about to break them and make a prosperous deal.

    3. Because he said he doesn't want muslims and other assorted refugee trash coming into the country to kill us? I agree, they shouldn't be.

    Imagine in the democRats actually put forth any effort at all to work with him instead of this horseshit snipe Hunt they have been on for 3 years. USMCA still sitting on Nancy's desk for going on 2 years now.
     
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  4. Winston1

    Winston1 Veteran Member

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    You know Shane you can try to deny facts but it will bite you in the ass eventually. Trump has abused the emoluments clause since day one in office. Tariffs require congressional approval. Trump like Obama before him falsely claimed a national emergency to get around it. He then undercut his claim by admitting it false.
    Again that’s no reason to work outside the law. That’s akin to saying I need the money for an operation so I’ll rob a bank.
    Finally I’m tired of the whataboutism from both sides. That’s no reason to avoid following the law and constitution. It’s a cheap trick and a coward’s way out.
    Grow up and remember the oath you took to defend the constitution.
     
  5. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village Staff Member

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    Well bud, I'm not the one that is in denial. I am actually quite pleased with everything except this snipe hunt that your democratic America hating liberals are on. Since the day he was elected they have been after him and now they are about to impeach him along party lines (and I bet they actually lose some of their own) because they have NOTHING!!!! How do you not see that!


    Under the constitution yes, however Congress has passed this power to the executive branch and has been doing so for decades, maybe longer. There are many examples out there.

    Are you fucking kidding me with this shit right now? Work outside the fucking constitution? Holy shit there is a double dose of irony for you. Good God you are ate up with it

    Fuck you Winston, I very well remember my oath, it has not expired and challenge me on it again and I will be forced to treat you as an enemy. You have already shown total disdain for the law, the country as well as the constitution by supporting all of this stupid shit because your panties are in a bunch because you don't like the president. Too fucking bad! He is YOUR President and he is going to be for 5 more years so suck it up buttercup.

    Then Don Jr will run you will have 8 years of that I hope it puts you in the ground. The USA doesn't need any pussies like you running around unsupervised.
     
  6. Winston1

    Winston1 Veteran Member

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    Sad @shane0911 very sad. You’re perverting the truth because you’re afraid of what being honest about who and what Trump is will create a void in your position. He’s nothing but a sleazebag con man who cheats at everything he’s ever done. He’s a coward to boot not fit to shine your shoes. Well fuck you and the horse you rode in on. I stand for the same things I did when I fought against HRC and Obama. It doesn’t matter what team that is corrupt (they both are). You’re defending the indefensible and will regret it one day.
     
  7. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village Staff Member

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    You are blinded by the hate @Winston1 you speak as if you actually know the man. To date he has broken not a single law and is the only thing standing between our way of life and a bunch of socialists so you're god damned right, I will defend him and continue to do so.

    Clown
     
  8. Winston1

    Winston1 Veteran Member

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    I don’t know him Shane but I have two close friends who do. One has been a power in republican circles for 25+ years. The other a high level banker a managing partner who had to approve some of his loans (he didn’t). Both supported Trump in 2016 and both are disgusted with him and support impeachment and his replacement by another republican. So your last word was ‘clown’. Well that’s Trump to a tee....and you if you still believe his crap.
     
  9. kcal

    kcal Founding Member

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    at some point you have to acknowledge that unemployment is at a 50 yr low, gdp continues to out perform expectations, wages are up, we aren’t in a war. etc, etc, etc, etc, etc

    less wailing and gnashing please
     
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    The election is less than a year away. Isn't this impeachment really just a dirty political maneuver to splinter off a fraction of a percent of independents to swing the election? I see more people viewing the impeachment as thin and shady.

    If it works though it will be firmly in the playbook, and will be used willy-nilly going forward if a President farts in public.
     
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