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Re: DC Watch: Vic Koenning - *** Now expected to be the new DC ***

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from a clemson fan.
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Clemson finished #6 in the ACC in 3rd down defense and #3 in red zone defense. Decent.

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Re: DC Watch: Vic Koenning - *** Now expected to be the new DC ***

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If he is so good why is Clemson firing him? I dont know if I would want a DC that just got fired from freaking Clemson.
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because he and dabo hated each other so he wasnt retained. sounds like vic has the ego the size of sabans.

talks too fn much though. like the opposite of les. says the wrong things not caring what he says.

still a good hire. good coach. just needs to stfu. plus im not sure if im comfortable with a football coach comparing his team to beautiful roses.

timely interview i read on him today:

(gotta like how he packages himself with loston)

I GOT FIVE ON IT - Vic Koenning

Asked the last time he was back in Kansas, Koenning, the former three-year starting linebacker and team captain at Kansas State, was stuck. “Probably for an alumni game, when Stan Parrish was coaching,” he said. Following his resignation from the defensive coordinator position at Clemson, Koenning might find himself back in the Little Apple. Koenning, 48, was packing up his family’s home in Clemson, S.C., when he took about 25 minutes to talk about a variety of topics, including the “secret” to attacking the prolific offenses currently populating the Big 12.

1. What happened at Clemson?

I didn’t feel, for what we accomplished… Nine weeks in a row of not allowing 200 yards of passing, four seasons in the top 20 in total defense and the top 16 in scoring defense? For them not to be able to make a commitment to me, I didn’t think that was right. But it’s the new coach’s call, 100 percent, to make his call, and I’m not spiteful. But I would have hoped the administration would have said something… It’s like when you have beautiful roses in the garden. If you have a few weeds, you don’t cut down the rose bushes along with the weeds, too.

2. Have you spoken with Bill Snyder?

I have had dialogue with Coach Snyder. But to the degree of anything I can comment on… Hey, we had dialogue in September. He’s an idol of mine. He’s an icon. I look to him for guidance. It’s not unusual for us to talk. But yes, we’ve spoken.

3. Ever look at the Big 12 and think, “I can handle these offenses?”

I’m not an arrogant person. To say someone can come in and slow these offenses down is arrogant. I’m very proud, too prideful to say that. I take a great deal of pride in that… The whole thing about stopping these offenses is to get better players than they have and win the one-on-one battles. Right now, their Jimmies are better than your Joes… A lot of great coaches are taking it to the next level. No one can stop it, but slowing it down is possible with better or comparable players. When Missouri came to Troy (J-MART NOTE: Koenning was the defensive coordinator at Troy from 2003-04), they had Brad Smith, and the first two drives, they drove right down the field like they stole something. But we settled down after that… But I don’t know if anyone has the answer.

4. Is the next job where you hope to “drop the anchor?”

It’s unrealistic to use the term “drop the anchor.” It’s an oxymoron in this profession. Being a coordinator, you’re going to take some bullets. The survival rate isn’t high.

5. Which brings us back to Clemson. Any regrets?

I stood my ground and believed in my accomplishments… Sure, I’ve had some calls. But I want to do what’s best for my family first. I want to go to a place where you can win – that’s what I spoke to my father about last night. He reminded me about Wyoming (J-MART NOTE: Koenning was the head coach at Wyoming from 2000-02), and how that was a tough situation.

(BONUS) 6. Just to be clear – you’ve been offered jobs?

I have to some things to consider, yes, sir.

(BONUS) 7. When do you want to start?

I’m ready to recruit now. I have a five-star recruit right here in South Carolina who is ready to go wherever I go… These are young men who you build a connection with, who want to stay with you. Wherever I go, I have to make recruiting a priority… The last six years, my areas have been the Southeast. The Florida Panhandle, South Alabama… I used to be good in Dallas, but it’s been a number of years… Recruiting now is the sophomores… I have lists here of freshmen and sophomores. You have to get to know kids from scratch.

(BONUS) 8. How and by how much do you expect to improve whichever defense you’ll be running next year?

At Wyoming, when I was the defensive coordinator under coach (Dana) Dimel, we went from 96th in the country in defense to 23rd… This year, we played five freshmen at times in our front seven… You just have to take it every day, get better, stay fundamentally sound and keep positive. That’s it.
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Re: DC Watch: Vic Koenning - *** Now expected to be the new DC ***

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from a clemson fan.
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Vic prefers zone. Loves zone. Plays a bend but dont break defense. Gives up alot of 3rd downs and hates to bltiz. Relies on front 4 to generate pressure. Good qb's can kick his butt. The only reason our d got better was because dabo made vic play more man and blitz. Bad hire in the sec imo. I was expecting him to go to k-state.
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Please, please please let this be not true.

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Re: DC Watch: Vic Koenning - *** Now expected to be the new DC ***

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Please, please please let this be not true.
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Im fishing in the same hole as you:wave:

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Re: DC Watch: Vic Koenning - *** Now expected to be the new DC ***

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This sound like a good ole boy deal to me.
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hiring someone who was/is better than we've got sounds like a good ole boy deal?

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Re: DC Watch: Vic Koenning - *** Now expected to be the new DC ***

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Please, please please let this be not true.
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sounds like chavis just younger and arrogant.

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let me remind you that we had a thread exactly like this when Bo was hired and some other hero posted something from an OU fan about how awful Bo was.

The point is that OF COURSE a Clemson fan wouldn't say the guy they just got rid of was worth a darn.

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Re: DC Watch: Vic Koenning - *** Now expected to be the new DC ***

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Please, please please let this be not true.
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Looks to be true...

From another Clemson fan...who also claims to be a LSU fan...

"he is a pretty good coach.

great secondary coach, and he is hard on his players and really holds his players accountable but he's also fair and very supportive. our safties and corners play with terrific technique. when he was here we recruited and developed DBs as well as anyone in the country imo.

as a DC he accumulated tremendous stats, however his defenses gave up a lot of third downs and a lot of fourth quarter leads. no killer instinct as a DC imo, and his blitz packages were lame. he favors the bend/dont break zone."

"He is a good safe DC. You will never allow many passing yards or passing TD's because he plays CB's and Safeties so deep they can't get beat. Your LB's will suck unless you have incredible talent on their own. He doesn't fit the LSU mold because when I think of LSU defense I think knock you in the mouth, blitz the LB's and Safeties some, tough, physical, and thats everything Koenning isn't. He will never blitz, but if he does ever decide to blitz one LB it isn't effective. His defenses absolutely swallow up marginal to decent offenses and get run over by good offenses like Bama and FSU did to us this year."
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Top 20 defense every year AT CLEMSON, more potential with our athletes...

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Re: DC Watch: Vic Koenning - *** Now expected to be the new DC ***

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Looks to be true...

From anothe Clemson fan...who also claims to be a LSU fan...
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but that's with Clemson talent.

A lot can change with LSU talent.

clair, Dec 4, 2008

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